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17 Apr 2018, 3:15 am

neilson_wheels wrote:

There are more details in this article about this mans' treatment.

https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bris ... ed-1463604

Thanks, that explains more.

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Specialist registrar Dr Luke Canham, who was on duty, wrote on the allergy chart for Oliver not to be given anti-psychotic medication.

So the procedures are similar to what we have here. They do this paperwork of drug allergies. They just ignored it later on.

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But his parents got a shock on Wednesday, October 26, when an on-call neurologist asked if they should treat his psychosis.

He had not been diagnosed with psychosis, and his parents were worried their son was being prescribed anti-psychotic medication. They argued with the doctor again and warned against using Olanzapine.

But that night, while speaking with an ICU nurse, they found out he had been given Olanzapine.

Asked and then did otherwise? Not to mention this horrible thing of confusing autistic meltdown with psychosis, I've had the issue myself, argh...

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17 Apr 2018, 3:25 am

Hello Magz, it does just seem to be a series of mistakes and bad decisions from the start of treatment until it was too late to help him.

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17 Apr 2018, 3:31 am

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Hello Magz, it does just seem to be a series of mistakes and bad decisions from the start of treatment until it was too late to help him.

Not only "mistakes and bad decisions". I believe the word is negligence. They had their instructions on paper. They did against it.

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17 Apr 2018, 3:43 am

neilson_wheels wrote:

There are more details in this article about this mans' treatment.

https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bris ... ed-1463604

These people deserve far more than just losing their licences/jobs.. they belong in jail.

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17 Apr 2018, 3:49 am

I'm not trying to minimize the poor standard of care given. Our health system is being underfunded and overloaded, resulting in overworked staff. They still seem to be able to find funding for lawyers though.

I was admitted for an emergency operation last year and I was shocked by the standard of care and cleanliness. I had to basically look after myself and double check what treatment was being given to me.

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17 Apr 2018, 3:55 am

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Our hospitals are similarly understaffed and overwhelmed.. but that's no excuse for doctors to do exactly the opposite of the instructions they've been given by the patient, his parents, and another doctor. None whatsoever. This was a colossal f**k up and it resulted in a very agonizing death. At the very least there should be a career or two ended here.

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19 Apr 2018, 6:33 am

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they say "you should be grateful that you have a public healthcare system" but quite frankly it has never been helpful to me. each time I've gone to get a referral for mental health support they put me in group therapy which was really intense and upsetting (why would someone who's unwell want to hear about other people's problems?) I have received much better care from solo research and self experimentation.

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19 Apr 2018, 4:28 pm

Yes, systems designed for NTs by NTs are fine for NTs who want them, and AS people are expected to adapt and to hell with our different needs. But this applies to much more than group therapy. It applies to almost all of the "therapeutic" interventions that NTs design and promote without any acknowledgement of minority groups with different needs. NT conformity is fine if they want that, but imposing it on others is a form of psychological ignorance if not arrogance.

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21 Apr 2018, 8:49 am

The inquest has been closed, it has been determined that the medical staff and hospital acted properly and with the best interest of the patient.

Oliver McGowan's family slams 'protective' coroner and 'arrogant' Southmead Hospital doctors after inquest

Bristol hospital vows to improve training after death of teenager

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Sue Jones, the director of nursing and quality at the trust, said: “As the coroner heard Oliver was very ill when he arrived at our emergency department with his epilepsy becoming increasingly difficult to control.

“This was a very complex case, our staff had to make some very difficult treatment decisions, and did their very best at every stage of his care.

“The coroner has been fully supportive of the care given by staff who acted in Oliver’s best interests. As said by the coroner, Oliver sadly suffered a rare side-effect of a treatment that was properly prescribed and the side effect could not have been predicted.”

She added that the trust would learn from the case, saying: “We will be taking part in a multi-agency learning disabilities mortality review to see how all the local health and care organisations involved in Oliver’s care can further improve services.

“But more immediately, we will be seeking to improve autism training for staff, appointing a clinical lead for learning disabilities and reviewing how we support young people making the transition from children’s services to adult.”

Deborah Coles, the director of the charity Inquest, which supported the family, said: “Evidence at the inquest showed that Oliver’s family were ignored by professionals responsible for care, a familiar pattern we see in our work on state related deaths. We must not let them be ignored now.”

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21 Apr 2018, 9:04 am

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The doctor who prescribed the medication told the inquest she would do it again because she believed it was in “his best interest”.

Damn. They don't learn on their own mistakes :evil:

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21 Apr 2018, 12:52 pm

There are reasons why I have trust issues with medical professionals and this is one of them.

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21 Apr 2018, 1:53 pm

If they consistently behave that way and keep their lucrative jobs and happy lives, then, painful though it may be for us to admit, it was not a mistake. The mistaken one is whoever believes they should be expected to stick to instructions like those they had on paper, or to take complaints from autistic patients seriously, as opposed to routinely dismissing them as mere pansy whining and then acting like they were never warned of the damage they were doing. What do you call beliefs like those? Autistic literalism.

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