Hans Asperger aided and supported Nazi programme, study says
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DatasDreams wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Well, the term "Asperger's Syndrome" is going by the wayside, anyhow, and now we are more or less described as being high functioning on the autistic spectrum.
Be careful where you say Asperger's or High Functioning these days. I was attacked in an LGBTQ forum for using those by someone on with ASD screaming Asperger was a Nazi, AS didn't and not to use labels as it harmed the community. I wasn't aware of the 2018 article and I have a formal diagnosis of AS:High Functioning in 2009 as an adult.
Sorry, no signature yet. My original account is is limbo and I had to start over.
On WP “Aspergers” and “aspie” are still commonly used and people in general are accepting of how or if you want to self identify your autism. While a lot of people have issues here with functioning labels and their usage has declined you are probably not going to attacked for using them.
As you found out outside of WP it is often a different story.
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DatasDreams wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Well, the term "Asperger's Syndrome" is going by the wayside, anyhow, and now we are more or less described as being high functioning on the autistic spectrum.
Be careful where you say Asperger's or High Functioning these days. I was attacked in an LGBTQ forum for using those by someone on with ASD screaming Asperger was a Nazi, AS didn't and not to use labels as it harmed the community. I wasn't aware of the 2018 article and I have a formal diagnosis of AS:High Functioning in 2009 as an adult.
Sorry, no signature yet. My original account is is limbo and I had to start over.
Welcome to WP.
I used to be a member of a site called "the aspie hangout" on Delphi Forums.
Here we use the word "aspie" more often than we say "have a nice day". Its just what folks like moi who are diagnosed with aspergers call ourselves, and each other. Folks even use the word "aspie" in their online names here like "Makalaya the Aspie", and "AspieOtaku". Its hard for me to even imagine not using it on an autism website.
smudge wrote:
Raptor wrote:
From the article:
This paragraph stands out for me.
Keeping in mind that this is the Third Reich we are talking about and in no way a democracy, Asperger may have had to throw a smaller portion of them under the bus to save the larger portion of them that could be deemed useful to der Reich. It's one of those sh***y dilemmas where the lesser evil has to be chosen, or have the powers in charge make the choice and gas a lot more or all of them. It would have done much more harm than good if he'd protested or tried to fight the system since it was not the type of regime to tolerate any resistance, real or imagined.
I wouldn't want to jump to conclusions about Asperger's culpability without further study of evidence. If there are any written directives issued, office memos, personal correspondence, notes, or journals surviving they would need to be scrutinized to peice together a fair verdict.
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Asperger did take considerable pride in his “Heilpädagogik” – therapeutic pedagogy – which promoted the popular idea among his colleagues and Nazi leaders at a time of labour shortages that in certain cases people with autism made excellent soldiers and reliable workers. But Asperger also wrote about the need to “carry out restrictive measures” against patients deemed to be incurable and with hereditary conditions “out of a sense of great responsibility” towards the German race.
This paragraph stands out for me.
Keeping in mind that this is the Third Reich we are talking about and in no way a democracy, Asperger may have had to throw a smaller portion of them under the bus to save the larger portion of them that could be deemed useful to der Reich. It's one of those sh***y dilemmas where the lesser evil has to be chosen, or have the powers in charge make the choice and gas a lot more or all of them. It would have done much more harm than good if he'd protested or tried to fight the system since it was not the type of regime to tolerate any resistance, real or imagined.
I wouldn't want to jump to conclusions about Asperger's culpability without further study of evidence. If there are any written directives issued, office memos, personal correspondence, notes, or journals surviving they would need to be scrutinized to peice together a fair verdict.
That’s an interesting point.
Yes. I choose to withhold judgment so far.
Last edited by naturalplastic on 05 Jul 2020, 2:17 pm, edited 1 time in total.
The whole point of terminology is communication; the word ‘Aspergers’ describes us.
‘High Functioning Autism ‘ does not.
Also, none of us knows what we would do in the Nazi world.
In addition, many of those living under the steel fist of Nazism believed in it.
They were brainwashed by every aspect of their society; even churches were told what to teach. And did.
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