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27 Jun 2018, 8:40 am

Back in 2008 three drunken rednecks in a Denver bar talked about killing Obama and were thrown in prison.
Ten years later, leftists are threatening Trump, his family, and members of his administration and nothing is done.
Double standards anyone?


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27 Jun 2018, 8:53 am

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Back in 2008 three drunken rednecks in a Denver bar talked about killing Obama and were thrown in prison.
Ten years later, leftists are threatening Trump, his family, and members of his administration and nothing is done.
Double standards anyone?

In this case it's morally justified *wink wink*



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27 Jun 2018, 9:42 am

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Back in 2008 three drunken rednecks in a Denver bar talked about killing Obama and were thrown in prison. Ten years later, leftists are threatening Trump, his family, and members of his administration and nothing is done. Double standards anyone?
You Trumpsters ... always diverting attention away from your tin-plated demigod to something allegedly done years ago by someone who no longer matters.


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27 Jun 2018, 11:09 am

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Back in 2008 three drunken rednecks in a Denver bar talked about killing Obama and were thrown in prison. Ten years later, leftists are threatening Trump, his family, and members of his administration and nothing is done. Double standards anyone?
You Trumpsters ... always diverting attention away from your tin-plated demigod to something allegedly done years ago by someone who no longer matters.

You are the the only person who has ever accused me of being a Trump supporter.
If you have ever bothered to read any of my posts, you would know that I deplore extremists, no matter what their ideology is.
Double standards are never good. The ends do not justify the means.
And you should have noted that I refered to the people who"threatened" Obama as drunken rednecks. This should have been an indication of my opinion of them.
I suggest that in the future that when you read my posts, you read them as written and not put your own spin on them.


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27 Jun 2018, 12:13 pm

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Maxine Waters urged progressives to “Let's make sure we show up wherever we have to show up. And if you see anybody from that Cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd. And you push back on them. And you tell them they're not welcome anymore, anywhere. We've got to get the children connected to their parents."...
How does this differ from Trump urging his followers to beat up on members of the media?


Trump has more influence and power.


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27 Jun 2018, 3:04 pm

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Maxine Waters urged progressives to “Let's make sure we show up wherever we have to show up. And if you see anybody from that Cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd. And you push back on them. And you tell them they're not welcome anymore, anywhere. We've got to get the children connected to their parents."...
How does this differ from Trump urging his followers to beat up on members of the media?


Trump has more influence and power.


Seemed more like trump was flippantly shooting his mouth off about one person at a given place and time, rather than earnestly rallying the public to stalk and gang up on everyone who works for CNN wherever they go.

And I don't recall anyone acting on trump's remarks about that, but I have seen the people ganging up on those in the presidential cabinet.



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27 Jun 2018, 5:47 pm

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My view is that ugliness begins when a country elects a leader knowing that he or she lacks the basic character qualities of good faith and good will. From there the ugliness grows exponentially, faster when the leader is a person of great ill will and longstanding bad faith.

There is an old maxim that "you get what you pay for", which contains a broad truth. In a similar vein, you get what you vote for.

It will get worse.


Sorry but you just don't get it. Clinton and Sanders have both supported the banker bailouts and every ear from Kosovo to Yemen. She supported the sanctions on Iraq that killed 500,000 children. She laughed and bragged about getting a child rapist's sentence reduced. She laughed about destroying Libya. So don't talk about "good faith and good will".

Trump is a consequence of people like Clinton and Obama. Trump was a vote against the establishment and Clinton was the embodiment of the establishment.

The US had two chances to vote for Ron Paul and instead voted in a fraudulent, spineless crook. In the last election all the anti war candidates were swept aside and Trump ended up being the biggest anti war candidate by a mile (another reason he was voted in).

The left could hold his feet to the fire over that but they have lost the plot.


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27 Jun 2018, 6:39 pm

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Trump replied “Be careful what you wish for Max!”. Which coming from the President is a credible threat. Reminicest of Pizzagate there are conspiracy theories about a pedo ring at the Red Hen.


Oh for crying out loud. Talk about limited imagination. Surely they could have fabricated some more original false accusation.

I can't help thinking about what MLK said regarding the conscience of one's enemy - if he has one, resist as Gandhi did the British Raj; if he lacks one, resist as Bonhoeffer did the Third Reich. (I do note that Gandhi survived and became the PM of India, whereas Bonhoeffer was executed, for treason, so there's that to consider.)


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27 Jun 2018, 8:19 pm

Maxine Waters' Army, following orders:

Mob harasses Florida's Republican Attorney General Pam Bondi out at the movies with her family:


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27 Jun 2018, 8:27 pm

MOAR!



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27 Jun 2018, 8:52 pm

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Maxine Waters' Army, following orders:

Mob harasses Florida's Republican Attorney General Pam Bondi out at the movies with her family:

I was following this.

She's actively trying to end the ACA in Florida.

1. end the stipulation that insurance companies can't deny you if you have a pre-existing condition
2. end ACA insurance.
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/opinion/fl- ... story.html

A lot of poor people will be hurt.

I read that is why people were harassing her - they're about to lose their free medical insurance.


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02 Jul 2018, 8:33 am

Right-Wing Portland Rally Declared Riot Amid Clashes With Antifa Protesters

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A rally in Oregon sponsored by the right-wing group Patriot Prayer turned violent on Saturday as demonstrators clashed with anti-fascist protesters, who showed up in opposition to the event.

The Portland Police Department said that four people were taken to the hospital as a result of clashes at the gathering. One person suffered a serious, but non-life-threatening injury, while three others suffered non-serious injuries, the police said.

Four people were arrested in connection with criminal investigations that began before the Saturday protest, police added.

Amid the fighting, police declared that the so-called “Freedom and Courage” rally had turned into a riot and revoked the Patriot Prayer’s permit to hold the event at the Terry Schrunk Plaza, a federal park, in downtown Portland.

More than 100 demonstrators attended the event in support of Patriot Prayer, while more than 100 counterprotesters showed up, local news station KOIN 6 reported. Members of the Proud Boys, designated by the Southern Poverty Law Center as a hate group, attended the rally. (Patriot Prayer is not a designated as a hate group by the center.)

Counterprotesters threw eggs, half-empty water bottles and firecrackers at demonstrators shortly after the march by right-wingers began, The Oregonian reported.

In response, according to the paper, police fired pepper spray-filled paintballs into the crowd. Police also used firecrackers, smoke bombs and flash bangs to deter the violence, KOIN 6 reported.

Police denied using tear gas during the protest but said they did use “aerial distraction devices.”

Officers with the Department of Homeland Security were also at the demonstration.

eos filmed by journalists showed Patriot Prayer demonstrators and counter-protesters charging at each other and brawling on the streets while explosions erupted around them.

In a series of tweets, freelance reporter Mike Bivins said that counterprotesters were throwing eggs, garbage and rocks at Patriot Prayer demonstrators, then things “ratcheted up.”

Jason Wilson, a writer for The Guardian who was covering the rally, said in a tweet that the confrontation between the groups “would have to be among the worst protest violence I have seen in Portland” and included “unfair fights.”

The “Freedom and Courage” event was organized by Patriot Prayer leader Joey Gibson, who’s hosted past rallies that have also turned violent and attracted white nationalists.

A group that identifies on Facebook as Eugene Antifa ― based in Eugene, Oregon ― organized the counterprotest, which they named “Defend PDX: Patriot Prayer’s Violence Must End.” The group also identified Gibson and the Proud Boys as their main opponents.

Clashes between Patriot Prayer and their opponents broke out during a rally on June 3, leading to at least four arrests. The groups also dueled at several rallies held in 2017.


Portland tour guides ought to add riot locations to thier tours.


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02 Jul 2018, 8:50 am

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02 Jul 2018, 4:43 pm

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09 Jul 2018, 8:20 pm

Man Accused Of Threatening To Kill Supporters Of Trump And New York Congressman

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A man almost ran over a campaign volunteer with his car after threatening to kill supporters of President Trump and Rep. Lee Zeldin at the New York Republican congressman's campaign headquarters on Long Island on Friday, police said.

Martin Astrof, 75, confronted a campaign worker at Zeldin's campaign office in Nesconset on Friday morning at 11:15 a.m. ET, according to Suffolk County police. "After threatening to kill the campaign worker and other supporters, Astrof backed his car up in an aggressive manner nearly striking the worker," a police statement read.

Astrof left and was arrested outside his home in Nesconset shortly after.

In a tweet, Zeldin identified the campaign worker as Donato Panico.

Astrof has been charged with making a terroristic threat and reckless endangerment, police said, and he was jailed overnight awaiting an expected arraignment on Saturday. The New York Daily News reports that Astrof's lawyer declined to comment on the case.


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Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell was followed to his car Saturday by protesters who hurled both personal insults and political rhetoric at him while he left a Kentucky restaurant.

The encounter, which took place in a parking lot outside of a Louisville restaurant, was captured on camera by one of the protesters. In the video, you can hear the group of protesters chanting "vote you out!" and "abolish ICE!" to the Republican senator from Kentucky. One man can be heard calling the senator "turtle head" and repeatedly saying "we know where you live" as the senator and two dining companions climb into their parked vehicle.

The encounter was the second one to occur to McConnell in the last two weeks. In late June, the senator and his wife, Transportation Secretary Elaine Chao, were confronted by protesters in Washington, DC, while leaving an event at Georgetown University.
According to the Post, hundreds of people were protesting Saturday outside Louisville's Immigration and Customs Enforcement Office, just a few miles from the restaurant. Among the protesters were members of the local chapter of the Democratic Socialists of America. When someone noticed McConnell at the restaurant, they called on the protesters to confront the senator.
"If the Leader comments on being called a fascist and a supporter of ICE by a small handful of extremist protesters then I will let you know," McConnell's spokesman, David Popp, told the Post after the incident.

Popp repeated the remark in a statement to CNN.
Like the group of Washington protesters, the Louisville group took aim at McConnell for his support of the Trump administration's detention of families who illegally cross the border. McConnell does not, however, support the administration's now-reversed policy of separating immigrant children from their parents.


Stephen Miller trashed $80 of sushi after restaurant worker cursed him out
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White House senior adviser Stephen Miller was so outraged when a bartender gave him both middle fingers that he dumped $80 worth of sushi in the trash, according to a report published Monday.

Miller, 32, was picking up a takeout order from a restaurant near his City Center apartment in Washington, DC, when the barman followed him out into the street and shouted, “Stephen!” before making the rude gesture and cursing him out.

The incident made Miller feel a little raw — so he immediately threw out his pricey meal, he later told co-workers, according to the Washington Post report.


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10 Jul 2018, 9:24 am

Reporters last night had to pull out of live reports from the Supreme Court as leftist protest mobs became too threatening.

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Literally had to bail on our live show from #SCOTUS. Moving the show back to the safety of the studio. See y’all at 11p @FoxNews

Shannon Bream ✔ @ShannonBream
Very few times I’ve felt threatened while out in the field. The mood here tonight is very volatile. Law enforcement appears to be closing down 1st Street in front of SCOTUS.

10:22 PM - Jul 9, 2018


https://twitter.com/ShannonBream/status ... 6752502790


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