Florida's "Stand Your Ground" Law Now Being Scrutinized

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I have a very firm view that prisons should endeavor to make every prisoner as safe as possible. No prisoner should have to turn into a gladiator to survive.

Going to prison is the punishment. The often gleefully expressed idea that we send people to prison because it is a hell hole and they will be made miserable from all the violence that goes on is sickening.

Unfortunately, most people seem to want to make life as miserable as possible for those in prison. I'd rather they learn to behave in prison and be ready to become honest citizens when they are finally released from prison.

^^^agreed, I was not expressing schadenfreude in any way, just stating a probability. America is fairly primitive in terms of how it treats its world-leading numbers of incarcerated folk.

Would just like my state not to be an embarrassment for once

I would like my country to stop being an embarrassment.

Yeah. I was pretty sure that you were making an observation, not expressing a desire for evil revenge on the guy. I just meant to elaborate on it a bit.

I was once told here that solitary confinement is torture, while that is not.

not torture per se, but torturous for sure. none of us would trade places with those unfortunates.

It should be if an individual can shoot a person right in front of their family for shoving them, after coming up and aggressively screaming and yelling at that family. Especially the individual has been loitering in the parking lot harassing other customers to. Almost like they were just waiting for any reason to pull out their gun and shoot someone.

So yes I can understand people being dissatisfied with how that law has played out.

I can understand how some private citizens may be in a real life fear-invoking situation involving possible harm unto themselves, family, property, and tend to use such a law to justify the use of deadly action.


On the other side, I sometimes feel that we now live in an environment for reasons beyond my sense of logic and rationality that various people often wind up being brought onto their deaths by firearms under such auspices. So, I would use the "Art of fighting without fighting" . A sentiment mentioned by Bruce Lee, which in a simplistic sense means to do your admirable best to either avoid conflict(s) or attempt and defusing them before they turn into literal violence. I know that you can't avoid nor defuse every situation, but at least try to lessen the potential of such within all your capable of doing.

if the law gives an inch then people will take a mile.

Yes, there are people whom will attempt to go the extent of the law, but this does not mean all persons.

but enough people to form a critical mass which ruins stuff for the rest of us, in a phenomenon akin to the tragedy of the commons.

Yes, you make a valid point..

It should be noted that the shooter has been charged and could possibly spend the rest of his life in prison where he should be.

What is interesting is the number of run-ins he's had involving firearms and threats to kill people. If someone had actually pressed charges instead of hiding their heads in the sand, his permit might have been revoked.

It's only a "manslaughter".

A jury with have to decide whether it is first degree or second degree manslaughter.

The maximum of second degree is 15 years.

The maximum of first degree is 30 years.

"If convicted, Drejka faces up to 30 years in prison"
https://abcnews.go.com/US/shooter-flori ... d=57151343