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So many white straight people talking on here, lol and it's very, very telling. 
As a minority, I thought I had to speak up and speak out.
FIRST: Minorities know bigotry exists on both sides already, is this really new to people? An example on the lgbtq side - Conservatives consider us lesser-than, our acts as close to beastiality, and want to oppress us because our actions "go against their religion;" meanwhile liberals consider us to be commodities that they can use, example being the gbf stereotype.
SECOND: No, the media does not tell us minorities who is and isn't for us nor do political parties - it derives from first-hand experience and seeing what non-minorities are saying in each parties. Thinking minorities are being told what to believe - is bigotry and both sides are responsible for this.
THIRD: The majority of minorities lean left, why considering both parties are bigoted in their own ways - lesser of two evils. If anything all Trump and his supporters are doing is proving how we see them right (that has set the GOP back years with many of us minorities to the point in which I doubt the GOP will be able to return to W Bush levels for many many years). If every there was a time of the right-wing living up to the stereotype many minorities have of them, it's now.
FOURTH: I'll let Boogie Down Productions educate, one of my favorite songs ever:
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Also yeah - those white people in the video are whack. People have difficulty voting in urban areas? The issue is with poor RURAL communities which doesn't have a race - people shouldn't have to drive for two to three hours to their voting places. Whites are effected by that as well. It's a money issue that all types of people face.
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10 Oct 2018, 12:28 pm
As a minority, I thought I had to speak up and speak out.
FIRST: Minorities know bigotry exists on both sides already, is this really new to people? An example on the lgbtq side - Conservatives consider us lesser-than, our acts as close to beastiality, and want to oppress us because our actions "go against their religion;" meanwhile liberals consider us to be commodities that they can use, example being the gbf stereotype.
SECOND: No, the media does not tell us minorities who is and isn't for us nor do political parties - it derives from first-hand experience and seeing what non-minorities are saying in each parties. Thinking minorities are being told what to believe - is bigotry and both sides are responsible for this.
THIRD: The majority of minorities lean left, why considering both parties are bigoted in their own ways - lesser of two evils. If anything all Trump and his supporters are doing is proving how we see them right (that has set the GOP back years with many of us minorities to the point in which I doubt the GOP will be able to return to W Bush levels for many many years). If every there was a time of the right-wing living up to the stereotype many minorities have of them, it's now.
FOURTH: I'll let Boogie Down Productions educate, one of my favorite songs ever:
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Also yeah - those white people in the video are whack. People have difficulty voting in urban areas? The issue is with poor RURAL communities which doesn't have a race - people shouldn't have to drive for two to three hours to their voting places. Whites are effected by that as well. It's a money issue that all types of people face.
Who has to travel 2-3 hours in rural communities to vote? Do you have examples of that? Where I live, in a rural community the local town hall of the township is the voting place. People who can't travel (e.g. the infirm) can request absentee ballots be mailed to them.
The white people in that video are "whack"? I'd give my left nutzle (figuratively of course. I've rather grown used to having the set...) that a majority of white liberals who oppose voter ID laws would respond in like manner.
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As said, I don't know what people's experiences are like - I just take people at their word.
I also have zero experience to draw from. I do think it's a rural and poverty problem though. In the cities, transportation is remarkably easy so I don't see how urban areas could be impacted. As per it being economic, I also have no issue due to wealth which means my voting places have always been basically right next door due to living in affluent areas. Noted, I could be wrong with this assumption - but it's what leads me to believe it's a rural and poverty stricken issue.
(2012) No One in America Should Have to Wait 7 Hours to Vote - What's happening at polling stations in Ohio and Florida isn't some fluke of nature or breakdown in equipment. It's all part of a partisan design.
In Pennsylvania, House Majority Leader Mike Turzai was caught on tape this summer boasting about his colleagues' success: "... First pro-life legislation -- abortion facility regulations -- in 22 years, done. Voter ID, which is gonna allow Governor Romney to win the state of Pennsylvania, done." In Ohio, the Republican Party chairman of Franklin County, which includes Columbus, was even more blunt. Doug Preisse said, "I guess I really actually feel we shouldn't contort the voting process to accommodate the urban -- read African-American -- voter turnout machine." ...
There is no hidden agenda here. The strategy and tactics are as far out in the open as those voters standing in line for hours waiting for their turn to vote. This transparency -- of motive and of evidence -- is also what distinguishes the complaints that Democrats have about Republican tricks on voting from Republican complaints about Democratic tricks on voting. Widespread "in-person" voter fraud or voting by illegal immigrants exists mostly in the minds of conspiracy theorists. Yet proof of voter suppression is visible to all of us with the naked eye. All we have to do is look. There is no political equivalence here -- only more lamentable false equivalence.
Indeed, we are all complicit in a regime which forces our fellow citizens to endure those long lines. We are all to blame for allowing men like Jon Husted to determine which Ohioans will have their ballots counted and which will not. We who have the luxury of voting early by mail or who can pop into a polling station on Election Day, who are accustomed to not standing long for anything -- we do nothing about these voter lines even though they are the most visible proof today that America is still terribly divided by race and by class.
In America in 2012, poor people and elderly people and students should not have to wait seven hours to vote. They should not be restricted in this fashion by elected officials who justify the hardships they impart upon black voters by calling those voters "lazy." By allowing this ugliness to endure, year after year, election after election, we don't just subvert our own democracy. We preclude ourselves from turning to the world and proclaiming that we respect the value of a single vote and the dignity of a single voter. We don't practice what we preach.
A line of early voters snakes around a parking lot at a voting location in Columbus, Ohio. (Michael Finnegan/Twitter)
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