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27 Feb 2019, 12:42 pm

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Vladimir Putin -> GRU -> 'Fancy Bear' -> Guccifer 2.0 -> Wikileaks -> Roger Stone -> Spanky

That's collusion!


:lol:
It's not April 1st yet.

GRU dispsnded 10 years ago. Those 2 names are made up. Wikileaks received the leak.


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27 Feb 2019, 12:44 pm

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Didn't this or something like this already happen? A lot of Trump investigation stories are like experiencing deja vu.


Like 500 times. The liberal media either has goldfish memories or is colluding.


But this time this is it. This is the big one. Btw did you hear the recent bombshell the Mueller is going to present his findings any day now?


Yeah, that's probably why the barell is being scraped as there's zero evidence.

http://raymcgovern.com/2019/02/20/russi ... in-flames/


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27 Feb 2019, 12:45 pm

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Lol what a ton of garbage. More he said she said. This is getting desperate. We know this is BS as the DNC emails were leaked not hacked.


How do you know? Are you involved in the investigation?


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27 Feb 2019, 3:27 pm

EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
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Piobaire wrote:
Vladimir Putin -> GRU -> 'Fancy Bear' -> Guccifer 2.0 -> Wikileaks -> Roger Stone -> Spanky

That's collusion!


Based on the testimony of a disgruntled ex lacky who was indicted for perjury?


Remember, this is the sort of person who Trump regularly has working for him. What's that say about Trump, himself?


I suppose that might depend depend on Cohen's reputation before all this started.


Cohen got a law degree from law school that has since been shut down for practically being a diploma mill. Trump didn't hire Cohen because he was such a stellar lawyer, but because he knew how to make problems go away extra legally. An honest person does not hire a fixer.


What was his record with the state bar?


I'd have to look that up.


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27 Feb 2019, 8:31 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
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EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Piobaire wrote:
Vladimir Putin -> GRU -> 'Fancy Bear' -> Guccifer 2.0 -> Wikileaks -> Roger Stone -> Spanky

That's collusion!


Based on the testimony of a disgruntled ex lacky who was indicted for perjury?


Remember, this is the sort of person who Trump regularly has working for him. What's that say about Trump, himself?


I suppose that might depend depend on Cohen's reputation before all this started.


Cohen got a law degree from law school that has since been shut down for practically being a diploma mill. Trump didn't hire Cohen because he was such a stellar lawyer, but because he knew how to make problems go away extra legally. An honest person does not hire a fixer.


What was his record with the state bar?


I'd have to look that up.


That was a semi-rhetorical question since I was pretty sure you didn't know anything about it along with myself and most everyone else. But that's how I tend to examine things.



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27 Feb 2019, 8:32 pm

You can look up lawyers' records in New York State.



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27 Feb 2019, 8:39 pm

Let me set this straight: the right wing viciously attacked WikiLeaks at every turn until one of their chief fixers decided WikiLeaks might serve their interests.

The Obama administration did more or less the exact same.


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27 Feb 2019, 8:52 pm

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Let me set this straight: the right wing viciously attacked WikiLeaks at every turn until one of their chief fixers decided WikiLeaks might serve their interests.

The Obama administration did more or less the exact same.


Yep....that sounds about right. Exhausting isn't it? I liked Wikileaks the whole time, nice to see what are dirty a** government is actually up too. Sadly, it didn't change anything :wall:



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28 Feb 2019, 5:17 am

paying for his own portrait to be purchased at auction?!



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28 Feb 2019, 5:46 am

I think if this flops it will be seen by many as another "bogus attempt to frame the president."



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28 Feb 2019, 6:15 am

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I think if this flops it will be seen by many as another "bogus attempt to frame the president."


Who says this is going to flop?
Trump has had a long history as a fraudster and a dirty businessman. His charity was just a piggy bank he and his family used when they needed money, while Trump University scammed its students out of what little money they had. Infamously, he stiffed his workers and contractors out of pay, and scammed business partners. Is it such a stretch that Trump would continue his dirty work as President?


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28 Feb 2019, 6:47 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
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I think if this flops it will be seen by many as another "bogus attempt to frame the president."


Who says this is going to flop?
Trump has had a long history as a fraudster and a dirty businessman. His charity was just a piggy bank he and his family used when they needed money, while Trump University scammed its students out of what little money they had. Infamously, he stiffed his workers and contractors out of pay, and scammed business partners. Is it such a stretch that Trump would continue his dirty work as President?


No, it's not a stretch. What dirty politician doesn't continue their dirty work once elected as president? It's horrible in my eyes because just as I suspected when I saw this cartoon character running for president, it's so obvious that the entire corrupt establishment is against him, I figure that must mean he isn't with them, thus that can be seen as a good thing. The establishment is threatened by him, they have never gone after anyone like Trump, if he farted near a journalist I would expect a headline surface the next day 'Trump against green energy, releasing methane as if it's no big deal'.



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28 Feb 2019, 7:52 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
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I think if this flops it will be seen by many as another "bogus attempt to frame the president."


Who says this is going to flop?
Trump has had a long history as a fraudster and a dirty businessman. His charity was just a piggy bank he and his family used when they needed money, while Trump University scammed its students out of what little money they had. Infamously, he stiffed his workers and contractors out of pay, and scammed business partners. Is it such a stretch that Trump would continue his dirty work as President?


I said if. As in if it goes nowhere significant. What will possibly stick out the most is Cohen saying he didn't know of any direct evidence of collusion. I think the longer Trump can keep saying witch hunt hoax, the more it's gong to look that way to many more than it already does.



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28 Feb 2019, 3:12 pm

EzraS wrote:
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I think if this flops it will be seen by many as another "bogus attempt to frame the president."


Who says this is going to flop?
Trump has had a long history as a fraudster and a dirty businessman. His charity was just a piggy bank he and his family used when they needed money, while Trump University scammed its students out of what little money they had. Infamously, he stiffed his workers and contractors out of pay, and scammed business partners. Is it such a stretch that Trump would continue his dirty work as President?


I said if. As in if it goes nowhere significant. What will possibly stick out the most is Cohen saying he didn't know of any direct evidence of collusion. I think the longer Trump can keep saying witch hunt hoax, the more it's gong to look that way to many more than it already does.


Don't forget what Mueller still has to reveal, which doesn't depend on Cohen.


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28 Feb 2019, 3:19 pm

Crimadella wrote:
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I think if this flops it will be seen by many as another "bogus attempt to frame the president."


Who says this is going to flop?
Trump has had a long history as a fraudster and a dirty businessman. His charity was just a piggy bank he and his family used when they needed money, while Trump University scammed its students out of what little money they had. Infamously, he stiffed his workers and contractors out of pay, and scammed business partners. Is it such a stretch that Trump would continue his dirty work as President?


No, it's not a stretch. What dirty politician doesn't continue their dirty work once elected as president? It's horrible in my eyes because just as I suspected when I saw this cartoon character running for president, it's so obvious that the entire corrupt establishment is against him, I figure that must mean he isn't with them, thus that can be seen as a good thing. The establishment is threatened by him, they have never gone after anyone like Trump, if he farted near a journalist I would expect a headline surface the next day 'Trump against green energy, releasing methane as if it's no big deal'.


There are plenty of dirty politicians on both sides of the aisle who the so called "corrupt establishment" doesn't all work against. The majority of the old white boy club of the GOP doesn't seem to have a problem with Trump's past history. Far from it, they're interested in commanding as many branches of government as possible, while placating their evangelical and racist base with taking a pro-life and anti-LGBT base, while having someone who looks like said base in the White House.


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28 Feb 2019, 5:55 pm

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Lol what a ton of garbage. More he said she said. This is getting desperate. We know this is BS as the DNC emails were leaked not hacked.


How do you know? Are you involved in the investigation?


Ray McGovern has debunked this. And I know someone who knows what happened to the guy that leaked the emails.


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