Some children can 'recover' from autism, but problems often

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14 Mar 2019, 6:41 am

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I wonder how they can distinguish between people who are masking/passing and those who have actually recovered .


They can't



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14 Mar 2019, 8:11 am

"Recovering" from autism is impossible. Instead, autistic children learn to mask their autism to the point of no longer fitting the requirements for an autism diagnosis.


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14 Mar 2019, 8:13 am

then they reach adulthood and are found to have "autistic burnout"



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14 Mar 2019, 8:40 am

It seems this line of thinking re 'recovery' is not new. https://www.scientificamerican.com/arti ... om-autism/ . Being a little inquisitive/paranoid(take your pick) I wonder whether there's an agenda at play re ASD and recovery.


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14 Mar 2019, 9:16 am

Considering that a cause hasn't been identified, I would be highly skeptical of a "cure" Talks of a cure have been going on since the 80's There are threads here about it going back 10 years. Yet autism is supposed to be on the rise.

I think there is a definite agenda there.

I can only speak from personal experience and my own current symptoms.



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14 Mar 2019, 11:49 am

While masking and adapting is the obvious explanation, there's also the possibility that some of the children were misdiagnosed, it's something that happens.


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14 Mar 2019, 12:03 pm

DanielW wrote:
I think there is a definite agenda there.


Yes, there's definitely an agenda. The government can save money on helping autistic adults if they delete and invalidate them all. In the process, they can pretend they were good, compassionate people for rescuing or reprogramming the children who were born autistic.

It's a win-win for them, both financially and politically.


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14 Mar 2019, 12:04 pm

Even Professor Atwood pushes the recovery line.

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And on that positive note, Professor Attwood says some of the children who are diagnosed with autism or Asperger’s when they are young may even grow out of the condition given intervention and time.

“I would say that between 10% and 25% of children diagnosed with ASD will not be classed as having the disorder as adults,” he says.


http://a4.org.au/node/1214


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14 Mar 2019, 2:25 pm

firemonkey wrote:
Even Professor Atwood pushes the recovery line.

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And on that positive note, Professor Attwood says some of the children who are diagnosed with autism or Asperger’s when they are young may even grow out of the condition given intervention and time.

“I would say that between 10% and 25% of children diagnosed with ASD will not be classed as having the disorder as adults,” he says.


http://a4.org.au/node/1214

“growing out of it” is not the same as “recovering”. If means that you have matured enough not to be impaired enough for a diagnosis anymore not that an invading disease has been cured.

what I found most interesting is that he said things I have been saying for a couple of years ie that societal factors are impairing NT kids social skills to an autistic level and making autistic kids impairments worse.
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Without a doubt ASD and Asperger’s syndrome is on the rise and this in some part is down to the fact that parents are having children in their 30s as opposed to in their 20s when there would be a lower risk of babies being born with the condition,” he says. “Early detection has also contributed to the rise in numbers but there is no getting away from the fact that there are also plenty of false positives where a child is diagnosed without 100% certainty.

“Nowadays the definition of ‘normal’ has become much narrower and some children are labelled with multiple diagnoses to the point that it’s almost like collecting stamps.”

The Australia-based expert who has spent 40 years studying ASD also says spending too much time watching TV or looking at a screen is not beneficial and children should be encouraged to spend more time playing.

“Children with ASD or those who are displaying similar signs of the condition will not benefit from being in front of a screen because they are not reading faces or learning how to socialise and this is vital for all children, but particularly those with ASD,” he says. “Being engrossed in images on a computer or TV is effectively blocking thoughts and doesn’t allow children to develop conversational skills or learn how to play and interact with others. So I would encourage parents to keep screen time to a minimum and instead allow their children to play.

“Being with other children is a learning curve and when I was growing up, my generation had a lot more freedom than children today — being out and about roaming with other kids helped us to learn how to form friendships, deal with conflict, and develop social skills.

“Parents today have much higher levels of anxiety regarding their children’s freedom and are involved in every aspect of their child’s day which leads to children being less socially mature than they should be.”


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14 Mar 2019, 5:19 pm

I was out and about as a kid with other kids and I don’t know how to form friendships.

I don’t think kids playing games or watching tv is an issue.


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