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24 Mar 2019, 9:37 pm

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So what? I'm supposed to love Trump now? The guy is still a terrible president. He will always be a terrible president. Just like Obama with his empty half-baked promise of change and Bush with his war on terror BS. :roll:


Personally, I'd take Obama or Bush any day over Trump. :D


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24 Mar 2019, 9:45 pm

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So what? I'm supposed to love Trump now? The guy is still a terrible president. He will always be a terrible president. Just like Obama with his empty half-baked promise of change and Bush with his war on terror BS. :roll:


Personally, I'd take Obama or Bush any day over Trump. :D


You would take a man who was responsible for creating Isis? A man who had POWs in Iraq stripped of their clothes and raped and tortured to death by American soldiers and the CIA in places like Abu Ghraib? A man who destroyed the country of Iraq just so that we have access to their oil? :|



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24 Mar 2019, 9:54 pm

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So what? I'm supposed to love Trump now? The guy is still a terrible president. He will always be a terrible president. Just like Obama with his empty half-baked promise of change and Bush with his war on terror BS. :roll:
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Personally, I'd take Obama or Bush any day over Trump. :D


You would take a man who was responsible for creating Isis? A man who had POWs in Iraq stripped of their clothes and raped and tortured to death by American soldiers and the CIA in places like Abu Ghraib? A man who destroyed the country of Iraq just so that we have access to their oil? :|


You kind of threw me with the creating ISIS charge, as Trump has accused Obama, without a single shred of evidence, of just that. But okay, I realize you mean Bush. That is true, he fits the criteria of a war criminal. Still, I personally like him better than Trump.


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24 Mar 2019, 9:59 pm

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TW1ZTY wrote:
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So what? I'm supposed to love Trump now? The guy is still a terrible president. He will always be a terrible president. Just like Obama with his empty half-baked promise of change and Bush with his war on terror BS. :roll:
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Personally, I'd take Obama or Bush any day over Trump. :D


You would take a man who was responsible for creating Isis? A man who had POWs in Iraq stripped of their clothes and raped and tortured to death by American soldiers and the CIA in places like Abu Ghraib? A man who destroyed the country of Iraq just so that we have access to their oil? :|


You kind of threw me with the creating ISIS charge, as Trump has accused Obama, without a single shred of evidence, of just that. But okay, I realize you mean Bush. That is true, he fits the criteria of a war criminal. Still, I personally like him better than Trump.


I don't see how you can like him, but OK. People at one point liked Hitler too. Despite his evil he at least made sure the people of Germany weren't starving to death. He was also quite charming like most sociopaths.



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24 Mar 2019, 10:05 pm

TW1ZTY wrote:
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TW1ZTY wrote:
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So what? I'm supposed to love Trump now? The guy is still a terrible president. He will always be a terrible president. Just like Obama with his empty half-baked promise of change and Bush with his war on terror BS. :roll:
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Personally, I'd take Obama or Bush any day over Trump. :D


You would take a man who was responsible for creating Isis? A man who had POWs in Iraq stripped of their clothes and raped and tortured to death by American soldiers and the CIA in places like Abu Ghraib? A man who destroyed the country of Iraq just so that we have access to their oil? :|


You kind of threw me with the creating ISIS charge, as Trump has accused Obama, without a single shred of evidence, of just that. But okay, I realize you mean Bush. That is true, he fits the criteria of a war criminal. Still, I personally like him better than Trump.


I don't see how you can like him, but OK. People at one point liked Hitler too. Despite his evil he at least made sure the people of Germany weren't starving to death. He was also quite charming like most sociopaths.


Well, let's put it this way: I used to think George W. Bush was the worst President in American history - - till Trump got elected.


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24 Mar 2019, 10:10 pm

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TW1ZTY wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
TW1ZTY wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
TW1ZTY wrote:
So what? I'm supposed to love Trump now? The guy is still a terrible president. He will always be a terrible president. Just like Obama with his empty half-baked promise of change and Bush with his war on terror BS. :roll:
.

Personally, I'd take Obama or Bush any day over Trump. :D


You would take a man who was responsible for creating Isis? A man who had POWs in Iraq stripped of their clothes and raped and tortured to death by American soldiers and the CIA in places like Abu Ghraib? A man who destroyed the country of Iraq just so that we have access to their oil? :|


You kind of threw me with the creating ISIS charge, as Trump has accused Obama, without a single shred of evidence, of just that. But okay, I realize you mean Bush. That is true, he fits the criteria of a war criminal. Still, I personally like him better than Trump.


I don't see how you can like him, but OK. People at one point liked Hitler too. Despite his evil he at least made sure the people of Germany weren't starving to death. He was also quite charming like most sociopaths.


Well, let's put it this way: I used to think George W. Bush was the worst President in American history - - till Trump got elected.



Hahaha good point. But I dunno, Trump seems more bark than bite to me. His only true accomplishment was dividing this country up with a lot of anger and fueling more turmoil. I'll consider him worse than Bush if he succeeds in getting us in a major war that results in the US being invaded by enemy countries, or nuked.



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25 Mar 2019, 8:10 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
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So what? I'm supposed to love Trump now? The guy is still a terrible president. He will always be a terrible president. Just like Obama with his empty half-baked promise of change and Bush with his war on terror BS. :roll:


Personally, I'd take Obama or Bush any day over Trump. :D


Because of those two horrific Presidents and there double terms you now have Trump :D Because of the Russiagate hoax being pushed for nearly 3 years by the same media outlets now making out that mass murderer Bush wasn't so bad and Obama was the second coming of Jesus Christ, it is very likely you will get Trump for a second term. Just like I warned.


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25 Mar 2019, 8:18 am

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So what? I'm supposed to love Trump now?


Yes. Pledge your Life to the God Emperor!


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25 Mar 2019, 11:16 am

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Kraichgauer wrote:
TW1ZTY wrote:
So what? I'm supposed to love Trump now? The guy is still a terrible president. He will always be a terrible president. Just like Obama with his empty half-baked promise of change and Bush with his war on terror BS. :roll:


Personally, I'd take Obama or Bush any day over Trump. :D


Because of those two horrific Presidents and there double terms you now have Trump :D Because of the Russiagate hoax being pushed for nearly 3 years by the same media outlets now making out that mass murderer Bush wasn't so bad and Obama was the second coming of Jesus Christ, it is very likely you will get Trump for a second term. Just like I warned.


Obama saved the economy from the mess Bush left him, and gave millions of Americans health care. He wasn't the Second Coming, but he hardly sounds like he was a horrible President.


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25 Mar 2019, 11:20 am

Well, I think it is true that if it weren't for Bush and Obama, ISIS wouldn't exist.

And it was US and foreign involvement in Syria that has prolonged the civil war. Otherwise, Assad and his allies would have finished off these "rebels" -- many of whom were actually foreign interlopers.

TBH, I'm really unhappy with Trump lately.

He fumbled the Wall.
Hasn't signed the birthright order.
Hasn't left Syria.
Hasn't left Afghanistan.
He loves Israel far too much.
Like Obama, he's expanded the drone program.

I'm not really surprised though. All the evidence showed he was flaky.


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25 Mar 2019, 11:33 am

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From Glenn Greenwald-

"The Mueller investigation is complete and this is a simple fact that will never go away: not one single American was charged, indicted or convicted for conspiring with Russia to influence the 2016 election - not even a low-level volunteer. The number is zero."

https://mobile.twitter.com/ggreenwald/s ... 3418490880

I would be lying if I said I hate to tell you I told you so. I've been called so many names on this site over the last few years for calling out this hoax.

The attempt by the media will be to pretend it was never about collusion, but there's no wriggling out of that one. History cannot be erased now, people went too far.

I hope to see people admitting they were wrong and really learning this time. Never believe a word the mainstream media says.


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25 Mar 2019, 11:36 am

Trump supporters are probably more likely to be sociopaths .


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25 Mar 2019, 11:44 am

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Well, I think it is true that if it weren't for Bush and Obama, ISIS wouldn't exist.

And it was US and foreign involvement in Syria that has prolonged the civil war. Otherwise, Assad and his allies would have finished off these "rebels" -- many of whom were actually foreign interlopers.

TBH, I'm really unhappy with Trump lately.

He fumbled the Wall.
Hasn't signed the birthright order.
Hasn't left Syria.
Hasn't left Afghanistan.
He loves Israel far too much.
Like Obama, he's expanded the drone program.

I'm not really surprised though. All the evidence showed he was flaky.


It was Bush who had set the snowball rolling till it built up to ISIS with his blind military adventurism, not Obama.


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25 Mar 2019, 12:48 pm

Talk about a disgusting excuse for a journalist. Rachael Maddow is the worst of the worst.


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25 Mar 2019, 1:21 pm

In your quest to determine who's the worst you're now completely ignoring anything good about people.

That's how Trump gets you. He makes you rank everyone from best to worst without thinking.


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25 Mar 2019, 1:31 pm

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In your quest to determine who's the worst you're now completely ignoring anything good about people.

That's how Trump gets you. He makes you rank everyone from best to worst without thinking.


There's nothing good about a journalist who gets paid $30,000 a day to peddle propaganda. Nothing! Trump has nothing to do with my opinion.


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