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What is your take on the Mueller Report?
Trump, while not proven to have committed any illegal things, sure tried to get questionable/illegal things done. probably, furthermore, doing some of those. 75%  75%  [ 6 ]
WOO! WOO! 100% EXONERATED! WITCH HUNT! DIRTY COPS! BITE THAT, HILLARY! LOCK HER UP! LOCK HER UP! POSSIBLY GREATEST CAMPAIGN EVER! INCREDIBLE ELECTORAL COLLEGE VICTORY! 25%  25%  [ 2 ]
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18 Apr 2019, 11:39 pm

EzraS wrote:
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Page 290 of the Mueller report.
He went on to say,
"Everyone tells me if you get one of these independent counsels it ruins your presidency".
I think a person can worry about something like that ruining them without being guilty of anything. See the illustration I posted above for further reference.


I think we can now safetly assume (with hindsight) trump is now safe but with regard to his initial reaction before the release of the full Mueller report one smells the fear of a man hiding something

According to the Washington Post there's actually plenty of possible areas which could have bought down his presidency but Mueller obviously wasn't thorough enough to find the evidence
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... b5d70665f2

One particular instance, we already know that through the 2016 primaries, Trump was trying to arrange a deal to build a Trump Tower in Moscow, a deal that could have garnered him hundreds of millions of dollars, which he concealed from the public. Trump knew more details about this in a investigative report might reveal some of his dirty tactics.


Mueller obviously wasn't thorough enough to find the evidence, even though he conducted an exhaustive investigation for two years says the Washington Post.

It seems likely that's the sort of thing he foresaw and was fearful of. A relentless attempt to depose him that would go on for years.

I agree



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18 Apr 2019, 11:43 pm

sly279 wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Page 290 of the Mueller report.
He went on to say,
"Everyone tells me if you get one of these independent counsels it ruins your presidency".
I think a person can worry about something like that ruining them without being guilty of anything. See the illustration I posted above for further reference.


I think we can now safetly assume (with hindsight) trump is now safe but with regard to his initial reaction before the release of the full Mueller report one smells the fear of a man hiding something

According to the Washington Post there's actually plenty of possible areas which could have bought down his presidency but Mueller obviously wasn't thorough enough to find the evidence
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... b5d70665f2

One particular instance, we already know that through the 2016 primaries, Trump was trying to arrange a deal to build a Trump Tower in Moscow, a deal that could have garnered him hundreds of millions of dollars, which he concealed from the public. Trump knew more details about this in a investigative report might reveal some of his dirty tactics.

You do know what site your on right? People full of anxiety ? Worrying doesn’t mean your guilty of something


No I'll give trump some credit...the guys got balls but I also think he's got friends in high places otherwise he would be facing impeachment



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18 Apr 2019, 11:47 pm

cyberdad wrote:
sly279 wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Page 290 of the Mueller report.
He went on to say,
"Everyone tells me if you get one of these independent counsels it ruins your presidency".
I think a person can worry about something like that ruining them without being guilty of anything. See the illustration I posted above for further reference.


I think we can now safetly assume (with hindsight) trump is now safe but with regard to his initial reaction before the release of the full Mueller report one smells the fear of a man hiding something

According to the Washington Post there's actually plenty of possible areas which could have bought down his presidency but Mueller obviously wasn't thorough enough to find the evidence
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... b5d70665f2

One particular instance, we already know that through the 2016 primaries, Trump was trying to arrange a deal to build a Trump Tower in Moscow, a deal that could have garnered him hundreds of millions of dollars, which he concealed from the public. Trump knew more details about this in a investigative report might reveal some of his dirty tactics.

You do know what site your on right? People full of anxiety ? Worrying doesn’t mean your guilty of something


No I'll give trump some credit...the guys got balls but I also think he's got friends in high places otherwise he would be facing impeachment

If it wasn’t for Obama ,Hillary would be in prison.
Politicians never face time. Are you made about that or just that it’s republicans that aren’t and happy democrats don’t?
Though in this case trump didn’t do anything wrong.


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18 Apr 2019, 11:53 pm

cyberdad wrote:
EzraS wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Page 290 of the Mueller report.
He went on to say,
"Everyone tells me if you get one of these independent counsels it ruins your presidency".
I think a person can worry about something like that ruining them without being guilty of anything. See the illustration I posted above for further reference.


I think we can now safetly assume (with hindsight) trump is now safe but with regard to his initial reaction before the release of the full Mueller report one smells the fear of a man hiding something

According to the Washington Post there's actually plenty of possible areas which could have bought down his presidency but Mueller obviously wasn't thorough enough to find the evidence
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... b5d70665f2

One particular instance, we already know that through the 2016 primaries, Trump was trying to arrange a deal to build a Trump Tower in Moscow, a deal that could have garnered him hundreds of millions of dollars, which he concealed from the public. Trump knew more details about this in a investigative report might reveal some of his dirty tactics.


Mueller obviously wasn't thorough enough to find the evidence, even though he conducted an exhaustive investigation for two years says the Washington Post.

It seems likely that's the sort of thing he foresaw and was fearful of. A relentless attempt to depose him that would go on for years.

I agree


So you agree that it's possible his fear was based more on a lynch mob, than something he was guilty of.



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19 Apr 2019, 12:01 am

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So you agree that it's possible his fear was based more on a lynch mob, than something he was guilty of.

I agree Mueller wasn't thorough enough and I also agree this will drag on for years



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19 Apr 2019, 12:04 am

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Are you made about that or just that it’s republicans that aren’t and happy democrats don’t?
Though in this case trump didn’t do anything wrong.


It's a moot point...Trump will be popping the champagne regardless



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19 Apr 2019, 12:19 am

sly279 wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
sly279 wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Page 290 of the Mueller report.
He went on to say,
"Everyone tells me if you get one of these independent counsels it ruins your presidency".
I think a person can worry about something like that ruining them without being guilty of anything. See the illustration I posted above for further reference.


I think we can now safetly assume (with hindsight) trump is now safe but with regard to his initial reaction before the release of the full Mueller report one smells the fear of a man hiding something

According to the Washington Post there's actually plenty of possible areas which could have bought down his presidency but Mueller obviously wasn't thorough enough to find the evidence
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... b5d70665f2

One particular instance, we already know that through the 2016 primaries, Trump was trying to arrange a deal to build a Trump Tower in Moscow, a deal that could have garnered him hundreds of millions of dollars, which he concealed from the public. Trump knew more details about this in a investigative report might reveal some of his dirty tactics.

You do know what site your on right? People full of anxiety ? Worrying doesn’t mean your guilty of something


No I'll give trump some credit...the guys got balls but I also think he's got friends in high places otherwise he would be facing impeachment

If it wasn’t for Obama ,Hillary would be in prison.
Politicians never face time. Are you made about that or just that it’s republicans that aren’t and happy democrats don’t?
Though in this case trump didn’t do anything wrong.









...I can point to plenty of politicians who got caught, and not only faced, but DID time - Two consecutive (one Rep, one Dem) governors of Illinois, for two, IIRC :twisted: :P ! !! !!


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19 Apr 2019, 6:22 am

cyberdad wrote:
EzraS wrote:
So you agree that it's possible his fear was based more on a lynch mob, than something he was guilty of.

I agree Mueller wasn't thorough enough and I also agree this will drag on for years


So since a ridiculously long and expensive investigation flopped, like so many said it would, they're going to keep taking it a step further. I laugh at such obvious folly every time I think of it. Then I shake my head.



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19 Apr 2019, 8:32 am

EzraS wrote:
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675 days—nearly 2 years investigation—from when Mueller was appointed to when he produced his final report for Attorney General Barr

2,800+ subpoenas issued from the Special Counsel’s office

500 witnesses interviewed

Nearly 500 search warrants carried out

More than 230 communications records demanded

More than $35 million spent

No collusion, no obstruction. Not much to show for the effort.


I wonder how much taxpayer money that colossal nothing burger cost.

Probably far less that the gazillion investigations Republican did on the Clinton.

EzraS wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
EzraS wrote:
So you agree that it's possible his fear was based more on a lynch mob, than something he was guilty of.

I agree Mueller wasn't thorough enough and I also agree this will drag on for years


So since a ridiculously long and expensive investigation flopped, like so many said it would, they're going to keep taking it a step further. I laugh at such obvious folly every time I think of it. Then I shake my head.

It worked against Hillary Clinton, even though they didn't found much in the end.


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19 Apr 2019, 9:29 am

Tollorin wrote:
EzraS wrote:
jimmy m wrote:
675 days—nearly 2 years investigation—from when Mueller was appointed to when he produced his final report for Attorney General Barr

2,800+ subpoenas issued from the Special Counsel’s office

500 witnesses interviewed

Nearly 500 search warrants carried out

More than 230 communications records demanded

More than $35 million spent

No collusion, no obstruction. Not much to show for the effort.


I wonder how much taxpayer money that colossal nothing burger cost.

Probably far less that the gazillion investigations Republican did on the Clinton.

EzraS wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
EzraS wrote:
So you agree that it's possible his fear was based more on a lynch mob, than something he was guilty of.

I agree Mueller wasn't thorough enough and I also agree this will drag on for years


So since a ridiculously long and expensive investigation flopped, like so many said it would, they're going to keep taking it a step further. I laugh at such obvious folly every time I think of it. Then I shake my head.

It worked against Hillary Clinton, even though they didn't found much in the end.


The Clinton investigations didn't last almost 2 years. It only felt that way because the election cycle never ends.

I still say this is one of those "illegal for the commoner, not for the aristocrat" b.s. that keeps the vast majority of politicians out of trouble. It's part of those special rules. It happened with Clinton. Were anyone expecting less with Trump? Only if the Republicans really felt like he was such a liability that having a President Pence was better would they have gone ahead with that.


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