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13 Jul 2019, 8:14 am

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Although I do not know Cyberdad as a person, I do know that any post that pits white against color, he will be in. :( We should be the solution, not the problem. :heart:


I fight for the underdog



There's lots of white underdogs too. But, I always see you implying ugly things regarding whites. If you only love your own, is it really love? Or is it simply opposition?


white underdogs? do you mean poor people in general or white people claiming to be discriminated by blacks?? I'm confused

Having socialist values nobody's "real" problems are superior to anothers..



Or, maybe you are white and hate whites. I've known people like that. Fathers who hated their own kids, but were nice to everyone else's kids. It's a strange phenomenon, but it exists.

I don't feel a lot of love coming through your posts. The only thing I ever pick up on is condemnation and righteous anger. Those are luxury emotions. But, they keep some people alive. We all do what we must, so I get it.


It does seem that a great deal of the hatred expressed towards whites is by whites. Apparently they are excluding themselves when going on about how despicable white people are.



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13 Jul 2019, 8:25 am

EzraS wrote:
Persephone29 wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Persephone29 wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Persephone29 wrote:
Although I do not know Cyberdad as a person, I do know that any post that pits white against color, he will be in. :( We should be the solution, not the problem. :heart:


I fight for the underdog



There's lots of white underdogs too. But, I always see you implying ugly things regarding whites. If you only love your own, is it really love? Or is it simply opposition?


white underdogs? do you mean poor people in general or white people claiming to be discriminated by blacks?? I'm confused

Having socialist values nobody's "real" problems are superior to anothers..



Or, maybe you are white and hate whites. I've known people like that. Fathers who hated their own kids, but were nice to everyone else's kids. It's a strange phenomenon, but it exists.

I don't feel a lot of love coming through your posts. The only thing I ever pick up on is condemnation and righteous anger. Those are luxury emotions. But, they keep some people alive. We all do what we must, so I get it.


It does seem that a great deal of the hatred expressed towards whites is by whites. Apparently they are excluding themselves when going on about how despicable white people are.


Or maybe not all white people are the same and some are actually sick of seeing racism in a country that has always been controlled by white people with money? Maybe they just want everybody to have a fair chance in life?


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13 Jul 2019, 8:40 am

TheRevengeofTW1ZTY wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Persephone29 wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Persephone29 wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Persephone29 wrote:
Although I do not know Cyberdad as a person, I do know that any post that pits white against color, he will be in. :( We should be the solution, not the problem. :heart:


I fight for the underdog



There's lots of white underdogs too. But, I always see you implying ugly things regarding whites. If you only love your own, is it really love? Or is it simply opposition?


white underdogs? do you mean poor people in general or white people claiming to be discriminated by blacks?? I'm confused

Having socialist values nobody's "real" problems are superior to anothers..



Or, maybe you are white and hate whites. I've known people like that. Fathers who hated their own kids, but were nice to everyone else's kids. It's a strange phenomenon, but it exists.

I don't feel a lot of love coming through your posts. The only thing I ever pick up on is condemnation and righteous anger. Those are luxury emotions. But, they keep some people alive. We all do what we must, so I get it.


It does seem that a great deal of the hatred expressed towards whites is by whites. Apparently they are excluding themselves when going on about how despicable white people are.


Or maybe not all white people are the same and some are actually sick of seeing racism in a country that has always been controlled by white people with money? Maybe they just want everybody to have a fair chance in life?


The contradiction with that is they seem to be saying all white people are the same.



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13 Jul 2019, 8:49 am

EzraS wrote:
TheRevengeofTW1ZTY wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Persephone29 wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Persephone29 wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Persephone29 wrote:
Although I do not know Cyberdad as a person, I do know that any post that pits white against color, he will be in. :( We should be the solution, not the problem. :heart:


I fight for the underdog



There's lots of white underdogs too. But, I always see you implying ugly things regarding whites. If you only love your own, is it really love? Or is it simply opposition?


white underdogs? do you mean poor people in general or white people claiming to be discriminated by blacks?? I'm confused

Having socialist values nobody's "real" problems are superior to anothers..



Or, maybe you are white and hate whites. I've known people like that. Fathers who hated their own kids, but were nice to everyone else's kids. It's a strange phenomenon, but it exists.

I don't feel a lot of love coming through your posts. The only thing I ever pick up on is condemnation and righteous anger. Those are luxury emotions. But, they keep some people alive. We all do what we must, so I get it.


It does seem that a great deal of the hatred expressed towards whites is by whites. Apparently they are excluding themselves when going on about how despicable white people are.


Or maybe not all white people are the same and some are actually sick of seeing racism in a country that has always been controlled by white people with money? Maybe they just want everybody to have a fair chance in life?


The contradiction with that is they seem to be saying all white people are the same.


Who exactly is "they"? Try not lumping people together. I have a bad habit of doing that myself.

Some white people do hate other white people for the centuries of oppression that they have commited against people of color (and it still goes on to this day though not as bad), and some white liberal types simply want everyone to be treated fairly, white or colored. But either way it's all born from the realization that we are all human and nobody has the right to judge or oppress somebody else based on their skin color.

If you don't want these people to think "all white people are the same" then work towards proving them wrong instead of trying to deflect these accusations.


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13 Jul 2019, 8:50 am

TheRevengeofTW1ZTY wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Persephone29 wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Persephone29 wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Persephone29 wrote:
Although I do not know Cyberdad as a person, I do know that any post that pits white against color, he will be in. :( We should be the solution, not the problem. :heart:


I fight for the underdog



There's lots of white underdogs too. But, I always see you implying ugly things regarding whites. If you only love your own, is it really love? Or is it simply opposition?


white underdogs? do you mean poor people in general or white people claiming to be discriminated by blacks?? I'm confused

Having socialist values nobody's "real" problems are superior to anothers..



Or, maybe you are white and hate whites. I've known people like that. Fathers who hated their own kids, but were nice to everyone else's kids. It's a strange phenomenon, but it exists.

I don't feel a lot of love coming through your posts. The only thing I ever pick up on is condemnation and righteous anger. Those are luxury emotions. But, they keep some people alive. We all do what we must, so I get it.


It does seem that a great deal of the hatred expressed towards whites is by whites. Apparently they are excluding themselves when going on about how despicable white people are.


Or maybe not all white people are the same and some are actually sick of seeing racism in a country that has always been controlled by white people with money? Maybe they just want everybody to have a fair chance in life?


It never occurred to me to try and overcome something by squishing it down. It does occur to me to try and overcome something by raising myself up. You can't win at hurdles by insisting the sport lower the bar for you. Or, if you consider lowering the bar a genuine win, maybe you can. It's all in the make up, I guess.


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13 Jul 2019, 8:52 am

TheRevengeofTW1ZTY wrote:
EzraS wrote:
TheRevengeofTW1ZTY wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Persephone29 wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Persephone29 wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Persephone29 wrote:
Although I do not know Cyberdad as a person, I do know that any post that pits white against color, he will be in. :( We should be the solution, not the problem. :heart:


I fight for the underdog



There's lots of white underdogs too. But, I always see you implying ugly things regarding whites. If you only love your own, is it really love? Or is it simply opposition?


white underdogs? do you mean poor people in general or white people claiming to be discriminated by blacks?? I'm confused

Having socialist values nobody's "real" problems are superior to anothers..



Or, maybe you are white and hate whites. I've known people like that. Fathers who hated their own kids, but were nice to everyone else's kids. It's a strange phenomenon, but it exists.

I don't feel a lot of love coming through your posts. The only thing I ever pick up on is condemnation and righteous anger. Those are luxury emotions. But, they keep some people alive. We all do what we must, so I get it.


It does seem that a great deal of the hatred expressed towards whites is by whites. Apparently they are excluding themselves when going on about how despicable white people are.


Or maybe not all white people are the same and some are actually sick of seeing racism in a country that has always been controlled by white people with money? Maybe they just want everybody to have a fair chance in life?


The contradiction with that is they seem to be saying all white people are the same.


Who exactly is "they"? Try not lumping people together. I have a bad habit of doing that myself.

Some white people do hate other white people for the centuries of oppression that they have commited against people of color (and it still goes on to this day though not as bad), and some white liberal types simply want everyone to be treated fairly, white or colored. But either way it's all born from the realization that we are all human and nobody has the right to judge or oppress somebody else based on their skin color.

If you don't want these people to think "all white people are the same" then work towards proving them wrong instead of trying to deflect these accusations.



Prove them wrong by hating? Even if it's just hating whites, it's still hate.


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13 Jul 2019, 8:54 am

Persephone29 I think you completely missed my point.


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13 Jul 2019, 9:04 am

Persephone29 wrote:
TheRevengeofTW1ZTY wrote:
EzraS wrote:
TheRevengeofTW1ZTY wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Persephone29 wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Persephone29 wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Persephone29 wrote:
Although I do not know Cyberdad as a person, I do know that any post that pits white against color, he will be in. :( We should be the solution, not the problem. :heart:


I fight for the underdog



There's lots of white underdogs too. But, I always see you implying ugly things regarding whites. If you only love your own, is it really love? Or is it simply opposition?


white underdogs? do you mean poor people in general or white people claiming to be discriminated by blacks?? I'm confused

Having socialist values nobody's "real" problems are superior to anothers..



Or, maybe you are white and hate whites. I've known people like that. Fathers who hated their own kids, but were nice to everyone else's kids. It's a strange phenomenon, but it exists.

I don't feel a lot of love coming through your posts. The only thing I ever pick up on is condemnation and righteous anger. Those are luxury emotions. But, they keep some people alive. We all do what we must, so I get it.


It does seem that a great deal of the hatred expressed towards whites is by whites. Apparently they are excluding themselves when going on about how despicable white people are.


Or maybe not all white people are the same and some are actually sick of seeing racism in a country that has always been controlled by white people with money? Maybe they just want everybody to have a fair chance in life?


The contradiction with that is they seem to be saying all white people are the same.


Who exactly is "they"? Try not lumping people together. I have a bad habit of doing that myself.

Some white people do hate other white people for the centuries of oppression that they have commited against people of color (and it still goes on to this day though not as bad), and some white liberal types simply want everyone to be treated fairly, white or colored. But either way it's all born from the realization that we are all human and nobody has the right to judge or oppress somebody else based on their skin color.

If you don't want these people to think "all white people are the same" then work towards proving them wrong instead of trying to deflect these accusations.


Prove them wrong by hating? Even if it's just hating whites, it's still hate.


Like I said, it appears very contradictory. Perhaps it is devoid of logic.



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13 Jul 2019, 9:20 am

Do you guys really not understand what I mean by "proving them wrong"? If you don't want some people thinking white people are all racist then simply be nice to them and show them that you aren't racist.

You're not going to prove them wrong if you hate them for hating you. It really is that simple...


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13 Jul 2019, 9:41 am

TheRevengeofTW1ZTY wrote:
Do you guys really not understand what I mean by "proving them wrong"? If you don't want some people thinking white people are all racist then simply be nice to them and show them that you aren't racist.

You're not going to prove them wrong if you hate them for hating you. It really is that simple...


How do white people who white people think are all racists go about showing that they are not racists to white people?



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13 Jul 2019, 9:58 am

EzraS wrote:
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Do you guys really not understand what I mean by "proving them wrong"? If you don't want some people thinking white people are all racist then simply be nice to them and show them that you aren't racist.

You're not going to prove them wrong if you hate them for hating you. It really is that simple...


And how do these white people who white people think are all racists go about showing that they are not racists?


Do you ever take the time to befriend non-white people? And I mean really befriend them? Being nice to them and offering to help them if they are in trouble? And not assume every black person or hispanic person you come across on the street is a criminal? Do you choose to not laugh at racial humor because it's offensive? Have you ever stood up for a black person, a Mexican, or a muslim who was clearly being bullied? When you learn about American history and how the colonists screwed over the natives or how black slaves were treated in the south do you think to yourself "Gee, that was a very sh***y thing to do!" Instead of defending or rationalizing it?

And in the end, it's really about proving you're not racist to yourself. If you truly aren't racist and show it rather than claim it then people will eventually pick up on it.

Really think about what I'm saying. I'm normally not this reasonable...


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13 Jul 2019, 10:41 am

Are you surprised?

Because I am not.


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13 Jul 2019, 11:24 am

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Are you surprised?

Because I am not.

Right.

Imagine being trained as a Border Patrol agent.


"These people are dangerous!"
"These people are criminals!".
"They bring human trafficking, drug smuggling, gang activity, rape, crime into your country!".

Now watch hours of videos of officers killed/harmed by illegal aliens.
Now watch hours of videos of families ruined by illegal aliens.

You're AMERICA's line of defense against these intruders!

Now here's a message from our beloved President Trump ...

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13 Jul 2019, 7:43 pm

EzraS wrote:
TheRevengeofTW1ZTY wrote:
Do you guys really not understand what I mean by "proving them wrong"? If you don't want some people thinking white people are all racist then simply be nice to them and show them that you aren't racist.

You're not going to prove them wrong if you hate them for hating you. It really is that simple...


How do white people who white people think are all racists go about showing that they are not racists to white people?


You are always selective about what you choose to address. Implicit bias testing shows most white people carry bias toward African Americans which goes a long way to explain "white flight" and voting on issues relating non-white immigration. For all I know even I carry this bias to some extent.

If you carry this bias then a few bad experiences would be enough to flip you to become a full blown racist if the circumstances arise. The hardcore racists were not all born racist they were conditioned to believe this crap which strangely seem to turn a blind eye consistently on this forum.



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13 Jul 2019, 7:55 pm

Persephone29 wrote:
Or, maybe you are white and hate whites. I've known people like that. Fathers who hated their own kids, but were nice to everyone else's kids. It's a strange phenomenon, but it exists.


You need to be careful as you are insinuating I might hate my daughter which I find distasteful to the extreme so I will ignore that deliberate jab.

You used the caveat that "you don't know me" so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt (once). My knowledge of European history is probably greater than 95% of the posters here (If you go back and read the hundreds of posts I have made about Europe and it;s people you will see that) and I greatly admire and appreciate Europe and it's many cultures throughout from ancient times to the modern era.

We live in an era where education is enlightening our minds and for many Europeans the final frontier is accepting that we live in a global society of human beings and it will take some a few more generations of kicking and screaming to leave the mental state of "national and ethnic consciousness" into the future.



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13 Jul 2019, 8:20 pm

I agree with cyberdad. If right-wingers think us speaking out against what's happening in the Border Patrol and concentration camps means we hate white people, then it shows just how much they've gone off the deep end.


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