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24 Oct 2019, 2:46 pm

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This isn't a news website, it's a right wing conspiracy place.
Some university did a study with similar results. America is so divided and it started under Obama...
Have you never heard of the Civil War? (Hint: People who still believe in the Confederacy might still call it the "War of Northern Agression".) Slave States versus Free States? Brother against brother? Blue versus Grey?

No wonder half of America hates their only black president, and the other half wishes him back.


I wish race did not matter in this damn country. Would solve a lot of problems for us...



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24 Oct 2019, 3:30 pm

TW1ZTY wrote:
Fnord wrote:
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This isn't a news website, it's a right wing conspiracy place.
Some university did a study with similar results. America is so divided and it started under Obama...
Have you never heard of the Civil War? (Hint: People who still believe in the Confederacy might still call it the "War of Northern Agression".) Slave States versus Free States? Brother against brother? Blue versus Grey?

No wonder half of America hates their only black president, and the other half wishes him back.


I wish race did not matter in this damn country. Would solve a lot of problems for us...



Tell me about it. Anytime my anxiety or something is acting up, I always get accused of having personal problems with others who usually are of a different race. They don't get that it is possible for something besides bigotry to be going on.



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24 Oct 2019, 5:09 pm

Fnord wrote:
sly279 wrote:
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This isn't a news website, it's a right wing conspiracy place.
Some university did a study with similar results. America is so divided and it started under Obama...
Have you never heard of the Civil War? (Hint: People who still believe in the Confederacy might still call it the "War of Northern Agression".) Slave States versus Free States? Brother against brother? Blue versus Grey?

No wonder half of America hates their only black president, and the other half wishes him back.


Quite a lot of people who voted for Obama voted for trump.
So it’s not so cut and dry as you make it out to be.


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24 Oct 2019, 5:14 pm

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want civil war, or believe we will have one?

the only war americans need to be fighting is the one against the billionaire oppressors and their enablers in washington. there needs to be rivers of blood on the senate floor. there needs to be lobbyists hanging upside down, half naked from gas station canopies with their faces beaten into bloody unrecognizable pulps.

but it will never happen. americans are apathetic towards law enforcement habitually murdering innocent people without warning - often in their own homes - and getting away with it. apathetic towards the upper crust living lives of unimaginable grandeur and with more wealth than entire regions of the world, while they struggle with the most basic necessities and lack enough in savings to afford a single $500 emergency expense

if that's not enough, then i struggle to guess what is. the average joes of red and blue states have more in common than they realize. left wing, right wing, who gives a s**t, it's still the same damn bird and that bird is gravely ill... and if they don't learn to get along it won't be able to fly at all on top of that.


The left passes laws making it legal and ok for police to murder people In their own homes. Then they complain it happens. Or rather it happens to people they like while they wanted it to happen to those they dislike only

I don’t want a war, will one happen? Yes and unfortunately it’s needed. The founders knew this tree of liberty needs refreshed every so often.
If they were alive today they’d form a second revolution. Our government would ironically brand our founders traitors and history would repeat. We’ve become the very government they fought against.

Also not a call to violence. I don’t do violence unless attacked. But an American spring isn’t out of the question. I think we’ve become too divided and too different with some wanting a police state dictatorship and others wanting to be like the founders wanted. Such opposing views can’t both exist together. So i dont know what will happen and it’s scary.

Take buddy ranch.whar if the government hadn’t backed down. What if they’d got in force. Lost hundreds killed hundreds. Would it been the second battle of Lexington and Concord, this starting the civil war, or revolution as the other side sees it.

Probably while the government backed down. They didn’t want a battle with battle harden combat veterans.


Then the problem is with people such as yourself asserting that your views are incompatible with others' views. It's not strictly one party or the other that's capable of following the constitution, that's an individual responsibility & I don't think you're upholding it by saying your way of life is mutually exclusive towards liberals whose same rights are guaranteed by THE SAME CONSTITUTION.

WE KNOW YOU LIKE GUNS. TRY LIFE, LIBERTY & HAPPINESS SOMETIME.


One party is trying to destroy the constitution the other is mostly trying to stop them.

There won’t be any life liberty if the dnc gets its way. Free speech banned, guns banned, due process do you mean guilty until your rich enough to prove otherwise?
What bill of rights hasn’t the democrat party attacked?

Republicans are against welfare and abortions but generally way more pro constitution then democrats. So if I must choose one side it’s going be republicans.

Freedom and police state are mutually exclusive they can’t exist together. I’d rather live in a society where I have rights the. Under the boots of the police and if I’m good and think how they say I won’t get locked up.

Why do you seem to want to live in a police state?


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24 Oct 2019, 5:58 pm

So does anybody actually want to PREVENT another American civil war from happening? :|



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24 Oct 2019, 6:04 pm

TW1ZTY wrote:
So does anybody actually want to PREVENT another American civil war from happening? :|


I don't understand why I keep hearing it is going to happen eventually, but nothing seems to be happening. Sounds like everyone is waiting for the other side to make the first move.



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24 Oct 2019, 6:05 pm

I don't see any signs of an impending civil war......

I see people in the radical fringe fighting it out with each other----like it's always been. And like it's been since the 1960s.

People usually have too much on their plates to think about a civil war over nonsense.....over the difference between Democrats and Republicans. They have kids. They have jobs. They things to do.



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24 Oct 2019, 6:13 pm

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I don't see any signs of an impending civil war......

I see people in the radical fringe fighting it out with each other----like it's always been. And like it's been since the 1960s.

People usually have too much on their plates to think about a civil war over nonsense.....over the difference between Democrats and Republicans. They have kids. They have jobs. They things to do.


So, you are saying the whole "war" can be summed up as a couple of live episodes of "Hate thy Neighbor"?



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24 Oct 2019, 6:14 pm

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I don't see any signs of an impending civil war......

I see people in the radical fringe fighting it out with each other----like it's always been. And like it's been since the 1960s.

People usually have too much on their plates to think about a civil war over nonsense.....over the difference between Democrats and Republicans. They have kids. They have jobs. They things to do.


Maybe this is just the 1960's turmoil repeating itself? I hope it does not escelate into anything beyond that.



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24 Oct 2019, 6:16 pm

Not even that....unless you're an obsessed nut.....

People have no time for nonsense.

I live in a big city. People protest all the time. There's rarely violence associated with these protests----unless somebody from some radical fringe tries to stir things up. It never goes far.

The Portland situation, where the Antifa types are fighting the "right wing fringe" types, reminds me of two gangs fighting it out with each other over "turf."



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24 Oct 2019, 6:17 pm

We're not even CLOSE to a 1960's level of intensity.



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24 Oct 2019, 6:18 pm

Maybe all the biased news makes things out to be worst than they really are? We need to fix our fake news.



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24 Oct 2019, 6:20 pm

That's possible. Yes.

The media wants to sell papers. They want to make money. They like to "liven things up."

You know what? I've never actually seen a person in a MAGA hat in New York City.



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24 Oct 2019, 6:23 pm

That's because the only Trump supporters involved in such a big economy are parasites. People who make money off the backs of others aren't going to wear proletariat propaganda hats. They get indoctrinated over golf & banquets.


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24 Oct 2019, 6:23 pm

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That's possible. Yes.

The media wants to sell papers. They want to make money. They like to "liven things up."

You know what? I've never actually seen a person in a MAGA hat in New York City.


Neither have I, which is even more strange because I live in Georgia which is a red state full of right-wing Trump supporters. :|

Edit: I've seen plenty of Trump - Pence signs and bumper stickers though.



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24 Oct 2019, 6:26 pm

Most of these sorts of people don't want trouble, either. Many of them are life-long Republicans. They vote for any Republican candidate, no matter who it is. They might not even know too much about Trump. They just think he's the "Republican guy."