11 Nov 2019, 9:02 am
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Maybe the law should also accommodate people with a foot fetish, I hear that's very common 
People get aroused by all kind of stuff, all the time. I wouldn't feel comfortable making others responsible for it or censoring revealing clothing etc. I know self-control is considered an urban legend these days but it can be developed by anyone.
11 Nov 2019, 9:16 am
BenderRodriguez wrote:
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Maybe the law should also accommodate people with a foot fetish, I hear that's very common
People get aroused by all kind of stuff, all the time. I wouldn't feel comfortable making others responsible for it or censoring revealing clothing etc. I know self-control is considered an urban legend these days but it can be developed by anyone.
Maybe the law should also accommodate people with a foot fetish, I hear that's very common
People get aroused by all kind of stuff, all the time. I wouldn't feel comfortable making others responsible for it or censoring revealing clothing etc. I know self-control is considered an urban legend these days but it can be developed by anyone.
Exactly! If someone gets aroused by a topless woman, it's the fault of the one who got aroused, not of the woman. Not that it's a crime or wrong to get aroused, but if someone must be blamed, then that someone shouldn't be the person who's just minding their own business and happens to do it while topless. It's just like how some say that a woman is "asking for it" if she gets harassed when wearing a skirt that doesn't go past knees.
11 Nov 2019, 9:17 am
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11 Nov 2019, 9:27 am
Fireblossom wrote:
BenderRodriguez wrote:
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Maybe the law should also accommodate people with a foot fetish, I hear that's very common
People get aroused by all kind of stuff, all the time. I wouldn't feel comfortable making others responsible for it or censoring revealing clothing etc. I know self-control is considered an urban legend these days but it can be developed by anyone.
Maybe the law should also accommodate people with a foot fetish, I hear that's very common
People get aroused by all kind of stuff, all the time. I wouldn't feel comfortable making others responsible for it or censoring revealing clothing etc. I know self-control is considered an urban legend these days but it can be developed by anyone.
Exactly! If someone gets aroused by a topless woman, it's the fault of the one who got aroused, not of the woman. Not that it's a crime or wrong to get aroused, but if someone must be blamed, then that someone shouldn't be the person who's just minding their own business and happens to do it while topless. It's just like how some say that a woman is "asking for it" if she gets harassed when wearing a skirt that doesn't go past knees.
Yeah, I would call it "responsibility" instead of blame. No need to blame anybody as far as I'm concerned. If I'm walking down the street and get aroused by... whatever, I'm perfectly capable of dealing with it, even my teenage son learned to deal with such occurrences (no bathroom visit necessary).
You don't have that kind of law in Finland, do you?
11 Nov 2019, 9:47 am
BenderRodriguez wrote:
Fireblossom wrote:
BenderRodriguez wrote:
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Maybe the law should also accommodate people with a foot fetish, I hear that's very common
People get aroused by all kind of stuff, all the time. I wouldn't feel comfortable making others responsible for it or censoring revealing clothing etc. I know self-control is considered an urban legend these days but it can be developed by anyone.
Maybe the law should also accommodate people with a foot fetish, I hear that's very common
People get aroused by all kind of stuff, all the time. I wouldn't feel comfortable making others responsible for it or censoring revealing clothing etc. I know self-control is considered an urban legend these days but it can be developed by anyone.
Exactly! If someone gets aroused by a topless woman, it's the fault of the one who got aroused, not of the woman. Not that it's a crime or wrong to get aroused, but if someone must be blamed, then that someone shouldn't be the person who's just minding their own business and happens to do it while topless. It's just like how some say that a woman is "asking for it" if she gets harassed when wearing a skirt that doesn't go past knees.
Yeah, I would call it "responsibility" instead of blame. No need to blame anybody as far as I'm concerned. If I'm walking down the street and get aroused by... whatever, I'm perfectly capable of dealing with it, even my teenage son learned to deal with such occurrences (no bathroom visit necessary).
You don't have that kind of law in Finland, do you?
What kind of law exactly? Last summer someone called the police on a woman who was on the beach topless and she was forcefully removed after she refused to put a top on (she did make a top out of weeds after she was told to cover herself, but they didn't count that), so I'd say Finland's kind of messed up too, especially since it was a freaking beach. They should've driven out the topless men too, then.
This summer, many women held a protest on the very same beach about this, going there topless. It wasn't violent one or anything, just women spending time on the beach but topless. Some took part by simply bathing in the sun on their stomachs, but topless.
11 Nov 2019, 9:56 am
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11 Nov 2019, 10:53 am
BenderRodriguez wrote:
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Look, where I live, public nudity is legal (no, it doesn't mean people run around naked). And in my culture nudity is not considered a big deal, we are used to seeing strangers naked (for example in saunas or communal showers) since we are kids (and no, we do go around with erections all the time, you get used to it). I get, it's a cultural issue.
And nudity is not sexual by default, otherwise, people would have... interesting difficulties while visiting a museum.
I don't see what the fuss is about: the woman was topless in her own yard, in a place where it's legal to be topless in public. So yeah, I'm with kraftie, the neighbours should mind their own business and the police should be aware of the local laws.
As for the threats - whatever they are - people are dicks, especially on the internet
Look, where I live, public nudity is legal (no, it doesn't mean people run around naked). And in my culture nudity is not considered a big deal, we are used to seeing strangers naked (for example in saunas or communal showers) since we are kids (and no, we do go around with erections all the time, you get used to it). I get, it's a cultural issue.
And nudity is not sexual by default, otherwise, people would have... interesting difficulties while visiting a museum.
I don't see what the fuss is about: the woman was topless in her own yard, in a place where it's legal to be topless in public. So yeah, I'm with kraftie, the neighbours should mind their own business and the police should be aware of the local laws.
As for the threats - whatever they are - people are dicks, especially on the internet
Well there's a front yard and then there's the sidewalk running along side it and then the street running alongside that. As in right out in the open.
We have nude places here too. I was at a nude beach once. But you say people where you live aren't walking around nude, why not?
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11 Nov 2019, 11:13 am
Fireblossom wrote:
BenderRodriguez wrote:
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Maybe the law should also accommodate people with a foot fetish, I hear that's very common
People get aroused by all kind of stuff, all the time. I wouldn't feel comfortable making others responsible for it or censoring revealing clothing etc. I know self-control is considered an urban legend these days but it can be developed by anyone.
Maybe the law should also accommodate people with a foot fetish, I hear that's very common
People get aroused by all kind of stuff, all the time. I wouldn't feel comfortable making others responsible for it or censoring revealing clothing etc. I know self-control is considered an urban legend these days but it can be developed by anyone.
Exactly! If someone gets aroused by a topless woman, it's the fault of the one who got aroused, not of the woman. Not that it's a crime or wrong to get aroused, but if someone must be blamed, then that someone shouldn't be the person who's just minding their own business and happens to do it while topless. It's just like how some say that a woman is "asking for it" if she gets harassed when wearing a skirt that doesn't go past knees.
Exposed female breasts are an erotic body part the same as a penis and a vagina. That's why those three things are covered up at most beaches. I mean I guess. I can't think of another reason.
What about 13-16 year old girls being out in front of their house playing topless? Is there anything wrong with that?
