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22 Nov 2019, 1:59 am

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What a stupid idea for a TV show, it'll be cancelled after two episodes if not sooner. :roll:

-Sincerely, a Gen X-er (born in 1974)


What would the show even be about?

The entitled, self-indulgent millennials complaining that their poor financial habits cause them to be poor.


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22 Nov 2019, 2:37 am

LoveNotHate wrote:
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lostonearth35 wrote:
What a stupid idea for a TV show, it'll be cancelled after two episodes if not sooner. :roll:

-Sincerely, a Gen X-er (born in 1974)


What would the show even be about?

The entitled, self-indulgent millennials complaining that their poor financial habits cause them to be poor.


Let's go into specifics.

What were their poor financial habits that caused them to be poor exactly?

And, from the time they were in elementary, middle, high school college, unto adult hood what specific steps should they have done?

What specific steps should they do now exactly?

And, what does entitled even mean anyway? What is it we're all entitled to exactly? Truth? Inalienable rights in our constitution? And, are we required to have a cell phone or any phone and email address and the internet? Let's hypothetically a person doesn't want any of these things or to use any of these things. Is he entitled to refuse to use these things or does our society and culture make it an offer one can't refuse as in one is not entitled to refuse certain things?

And, if a person wishes to die is he entitled to that and is he entitled to Kevorkian style help even if he pays for it out of his own money? If he is not then why not?

And, if employers owes us as employees nothing then why do we owe them our loyalty, hard work, dedication, our bodies and our souls? Why do we owe employers so much yet we're owed nothing by them? Why such an inconsistent standard?



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22 Nov 2019, 4:16 am

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LoveNotHate wrote:
cubedemon6073 wrote:
lostonearth35 wrote:
What a stupid idea for a TV show, it'll be cancelled after two episodes if not sooner. :roll:

-Sincerely, a Gen X-er (born in 1974)


What would the show even be about?

The entitled, self-indulgent millennials complaining that their poor financial habits cause them to be poor.


Let's go into specifics.

What were their poor financial habits that caused them to be poor exactly?

And, from the time they were in elementary, middle, high school college, unto adult hood what specific steps should they have done?

What specific steps should they do now exactly?

And, what does entitled even mean anyway? What is it we're all entitled to exactly? Truth? Inalienable rights in our constitution? And, are we required to have a cell phone or any phone and email address and the internet? Let's hypothetically a person doesn't want any of these things or to use any of these things. Is he entitled to refuse to use these things or does our society and culture make it an offer one can't refuse as in one is not entitled to refuse certain things?

And, if a person wishes to die is he entitled to that and is he entitled to Kevorkian style help even if he pays for it out of his own money? If he is not then why not?

And, if employers owes us as employees nothing then why do we owe them our loyalty, hard work, dedication, our bodies and our souls? Why do we owe employers so much yet we're owed nothing by them? Why such an inconsistent standard?

This is about stereotypes, not specifics.

Millennials are called the *ME generation* because they're stereotyped as lazy, entitled, self-indulgent.

Millennial stereotypes

1, A boomer tells them, "DONT GO INTO DEBT". Their response, a dismissive, "OK BOOMER".

2. They spend enormous money to pursue worthless education.

3. They live with their parents (Mooch) longer than past generations.

4. The have an entitlement attitude of GIVE ME FREE STUFF.

5. They need "safe spaces", because the real world is too harsh on their fine sensibilities.

6. They think they're special snowflakes (everyone deserves a medal).

7. They're a self-absorbed social media generation.

8. They need instant gratification.


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22 Nov 2019, 4:37 am

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Get a second job, millennial!

You want cheese with that whine, millennial?

You don't know how good your have it, millennial.


Why should they know how good they have it? Why should they be grateful for what they do have especially if this gratitude must imply that another person lacks and must suffer for that lack? How is gratitude a virtue if another person must be poor and impoverished in order for one to have that gratitude?

[Boomer speaking] "Back in my day .... we didn't have … Cures and treatments for many conditions, computers, computer games, self-driving cars, electronic inventions, the internet, email …."

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Back in the day instead of being old and out of step with the times I was young and out of step with the times.


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22 Nov 2019, 9:52 am

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[Boomer speaking] "Back in my day .... we didn't have … Cures and treatments for many conditions, computers, computer games, self-driving cars, electronic inventions, the internet, email …."

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• Becoming Blood Brothers & Sisters: Kids would promise loyalty and friendship -- or to keep a secret about something bad they did together -- by making a small cut on their fingers and pressing them together.  In the spirit of the ancient practice of blood oaths, it was considered a cool way to be friends forever.  No one had any clue they could be exchanging bacteria and diseases.

• Cereal with LOTS of Sugar: Cereal was breakfast.  It came in multiple forms of wheat, corn, or oats.  Some cereal was pre-sugared, like Trix and Cap'n Crunch.  Others, like unsweetened corn flakes, needed vast amounts of spooned sugar to taste good.  The sugar bowl sat on the table and you could probably spoon in four tablespoons before Mom warned you about getting a bellyache.

• Chasing Trucks Emitting Poisonous Vapors: There was no warning that pesticide sprays were coming, just the delight of kids who found it fun to run behind the truck that sprayed poison to kill mosquitoes or other hazardous chemicals.  The fog it made was enticing and it smelled good too.  Running and chasing the trucks was fun, not to mention that jumping on the back of moving cars and running along with them was also a sport in those days.

• Chewing Sugary Bubble Gum: Sugary gum and candy were a '60s childhood staple.  And blowing bubbles so big they break over your nose was a big thing.  Sometimes kids had bubble blowing contests.  The bubble would break, and you'd start on a new piece.  Gum was not allowed in school, but you'd sneak it in anyway, and if you brought enough for other kids you'd make new friends for life.  Cavities ensued!

• Coming Home to an Empty House: The '60s introduced a generation of latchkey kids, as more mothers entered the workforce.  Helicopter parents were a thing of the '50s.  Kids came home and had to fend for themselves -- and if had an older sibling to watch you, your parents probably weren't in any rush to get home.

• Cooling Off with a Fire Hydrant: There was a time when officials opened hydrants for kids to cool off in the summer and they knew how to turn the water pressure down lower or put on a sprinkler feature.  But that never stopped someone's clever older brother from opening it full force.  Aside from wasting water, it had such powerful force it could easily knock down small children.

• Crummy Car Seats & Seat Belts: Little kids would sit in the passenger seat without a seatbelt.  The "safety method" was this: Mom or Dad would fling an arm in front of you if they had to stop short.  Infants rode sometimes in unattached baby seats.  They were kept up front in the seat next to Mom -- or in someone's lap! Bigger babies or toddlers rode in in shoddy car seats.  Seat belts just went across the lap.  Serious seat belts and appropriate car seat regulations did not arrive until the '70s and airbags in the '80s.

• Drinking from Garden Hoses: Bottled water wasn't even a thing in the '60s unless you had a canteen.  The hose, yours or a neighbor's, was how children stayed hydrated while playing outside.  Hoses were not regulated the way drinking water inside the home was, but no one ever dreamed that unsafe levels of lead were coming through.  Also, the brass nozzle was a danger because it could leach lead.  It was also common to drink from public water fountains, which were later determined to be more of a health hazard.

• Only Men went to College: Sure, there were exceptions, but for women in their early 30s in the '60s, nearly 80 percent of them did not have a college degree.  Instead, they had a husband and kids.  Among women between 30 and 34 years old in the '60s, only 7 percent had a bachelor's degree (or higher); by 2012, 40 percent did.  Among the same women, only 30 percent were employed the '60s; by 2012, 71 percent were employed.

• Going to a Friend's House Unescorted: These days it takes a whole lot of planning to get a child to a play date (and a detective to check out if a location or home is safe).  But in the '60s, you just called out to Mom: "I'm going to so-and-so's" and then walked to your friend's house alone or hopped on your bike.  Closest pals lived in fairly close proximity and you did not have to have an appointment to see them.  You showed up, hung out, and sometimes stayed for dinner, too.

• Hanging Out in the Candy Stores: At local candy stores, you could go and, for pennies, buy all the sweets your mom didn't allow you to eat at home.  You could sneak it home in small paper bags.  You could also hang out and get an ice cream soda, malted, and egg cream, or soda loaded with sugar, and sit at a counter and drink the way adults straddled up to a bar.  Kids often went in packs after school and no one worried too much where you'd been if it didn't spoil your appetite.

• Hitchhiking: Hitching was a popular mode of transport and people in the '60s didn't worry about the kinds of scary things that have since made many give hitchhiking a thumbs down.  Young adults, hippies, and transients hitched long distances.  And kids used their thumbs to get free rides too.  Sometimes it was to school, or to run away from home.  Other times it was to get to somewhere a parent refused to take you or didn't want you to go.  Kids also hitched rides for entertainment and to meet new people.

• Marriage was Normal: In the '60s, only about 32 million Americans, 18 and older, were single (either divorced or widowed or always-single).  That was 28 percent of the adult population.  By 2013, there were 105 million single Americans, accounting for 44 percent of the adult population.  The word dramatic is overused, but a jump from 32 million single people to 105 million of us is truly dramatic.

• Nuclear Families: In the '60s, out of every 100 children, 65 lived in a family in which the parents were married, the dad worked, and the mom stayed home.  By 2012, only 22 out of every 100 American kids lived such "married male-breadwinner" families.  In the '60s, only 1 child in every 350 lived with a mother who had never been married.  By 2012, 22 out of every 100 kids lived with a single mom, and only half of those moms had ever been married.

• Something Wrong with Being Single: In the ways they were viewed by others, single people were savaged.  When single people said they liked living single, they got responses like "Oh, you just haven't met the right person yet", or, when they are being a bit more presumptuous, "Deep down inside, you don't really mean that".  But a 1960s a national survey found that 80 percent of Americans thought that people who wanted to be single were "immoral", "neurotic", "sick", or some combination thereof.

• Mercurochrome: This dark pink, over the counter antiseptic went on every boo-boo.  It stung, it smelled, and it stained.  It was in every medicine cabinet until FDA started looking more closely and figured out that drugs containing mercury can be harmful and if you use enough of it could affect the brain, kidneys, and babies in utero.

• No Childproofing: Parents would childproof by taking a baby out of his crib and sticking him in a playpen.  Or maybe a larger gated area.  But once he got on all fours and crawled around, everything was fair game.  Mom let little ones play with pots and pans while she cooked, but she didn't worry too much about the chemicals under the sink where you played.  There was no such thing as childproof medicine bottle lids, or special latches for every cabinet, drawer, and door.  Electrical outlets were there for stabbing with a fork, and small choking hazards abounded.

• No Safety Nets: It seemed like a free and easy way to have fun, but without nets, there was a risk of many different injuries, including sprains, breaks and falling on your head when one of the neighboring kids jumped hard enough to bounce you off of the trampoline.  Of course, the things kids climbed over and played on in parks were also questionable and were not always built with safety standards in mind.

• No Sunscreen: The '60s was the golden age of the tan–and no UV protection.  Mom may have slathered you with suntan lotion, but to help your tan along not to protect your skin from harmful rays.  Older kids would use baby oil with iodine in it to prevent burns and would use a reflector to bake themselves in the sun.

• Nuns Who Smacked: If you went to Catholic school, you were generally exposed to several discipline techniques.  The classic was having a ruler smacked against your knuckles if you spoke out loud, rough-housed, or did not have your homework.  Another favorite was pulling you out of the room by your ear.  These punishments today would likely result in an irate mother in the principal's office, but back then they were just business as usual.

• Limited Contraception: On New Year's Day In the '60s, the birth control method that became so popular that it is known simply as "The Pill," was not yet available.  The FDA did not approve it until May.  Still, it took until 1972 and a Supreme Court decision in order to make the pill widely and legally available to single women.  Thanks, Boomers!

• Playing at the Beach on Your Own: The '60s were all about teens having fun in beach movies.  The whole family would go to the ocean together.  Kids were water babies.  As your parents were setting up beach umbrella and chairs, you would immediately beg to go to the water.  And they let you, with the command, "stay where I can see you." But really, the lifeguards were like babysitters.

• Playing Outside Unsupervised All Day: It seemed like mothers couldn't wait to kick their kids out of the house in the morning so they could get on with their chores or socialize with friends.  They called you in when dinner was ready and let you back out, telling you to come inside when the streetlights come on.  As Jerry Seinfeld once said, "We were like wild dogs." Kids wandered around in packs, looking for stuff to do.  Adults often had no idea of their kid's whereabouts for long stretches of time.

• Pregnant Women Smoked & Drank: Mothers everywhere may have been decreasing your oxygen and brewing fetal alcohol conditions while you were still in the womb.  If you made it out in one piece, you probably later found yourself sitting on mom's lap or crawling around under the table while she was having an afternoon swig and a smoke with a friend, while pregnant with your little brother.  Of course, our mothers weren't trying to hurt us, but no one really knew the damages these things could cause.

• Riding Bikes without Helmets: Since moms did not chauffeur kids around, you had to make an older sibling drive you places, or you rode your bicycle.  One of the first rites of passage was the day your father taught you to ride a bike.  Parents expected you to fall and made you get back on and stop whining about scraped knees and elbows.  Once you got the hang of it, you could leave the house and meet up with other kids on bikes and ride around together.  No one ever thought of wearing a helmet -- including our crazy big brothers who rode motorcycles -- but now it's a law.

• Sleeping in the Back Window of the Car On Road Trips: There were no cell phones or devices of any kind to entertain kids on road trips.  It was boring.  You had to read a book, if your eyes could tolerate it while in a moving car, or sing.  A favorite was "A Hundred Bottles of Beer on the Wall." Kids would take turns sleeping in the back window of the car while it was moving, since above the seats in the back window was a place small bodies could stretch out.

• Smoking Was Emulated & Encouraged: Cigarettes hung from adult lips everywhere -- in stores, on planes, on television, and at the kitchen table.  Aside from being constantly exposed to secondhand smoke, it was modeled as healthy.  Cigarette ads featured babies and parents together.  Mom and Dad thought it was adorable to pose toddlers with unlit cigarettes or pipes in cutesy photos.  Teen smoking was sometimes considered a sign of maturity.  Kids were routinely sent to the store to buy cigarettes for their parents, and no questions were asked.

• Spanking & Hitting: Back in the day, parents hit you because that's what parents did when you angered them.  It may have been just a smack on the head, or literally being put over dad's knee for a spanking.  Sometimes it was getting chased around the house and hit with a belt.  Parents raised with that kind of discipline tended to continue the pattern.  In many homes a common threat was: "Just wait until your father gets home".  It took a while for people to recognize that physical punishment was abuse.  It landed many traumatized baby boomers in therapy, years later.

• Stick-Ball & Games in the Streets: Big cities were not filled with parks and green spaces like they are now.  Stickball, street hockey, Ringolevio, Marco Polo, and hide-and-seek were just a few of the games that kids played on high-trafficked streets in the '60s.  They also played with marbles and aimed them into the small holes in manhole covers, and there were hopscotch boards written with chalk on the asphalt.  Everyone moved out of the way when cars came and when the cars drove off, games resumed.

• Swearing Was "Crap": George Carlin had not yet made his "7 Words" routine popular.  Kids in the '60s quickly learned to speak respectfully -- "Please" and "Thank You" were the beginning and end of every request -- and that saying "Poop" or "Oh, Man" would earn them at least a stern look from any adults present.  "Crap" was reserved for adults only, or for those who hurt themselves with hammers or power tools.  Woe betide the '60s child who said "Crap" in front of his parents -- he might suddenly find himself with a swollen lip or a mouthful of hand soap.  The child that spoke even one of Carlin's "7 Words" would fare much worse.

• Unsafe Cribs: In the '60s, pediatricians encouraged moms to let babies sleep on their stomachs -- which we now know is not a great idea.  Plus, cribs had few of the safety measures in place today.  Dangerous drop rails, slats so wide an infant's head could get stuck, places where tiny fingers could get caught, and choking hazards were just a few of the problems.  Sadly, it took infant tragedies to lead to more manufacturing regulations.

• Unsafe Toys: Of course, Monopoly and Candy Land weren't harmful, but there were a slew of toys in the '60s that were super dangerous.  There was Swing Wing, which was basically a hula hoop attached to a helmet that you had to swing around and round with whiplash-like head movements.  And Jarts, a dart with a dangerous hook attached that would fly through the air and could land on other kids.  There were also plenty of BB guns and also cap guns -- the caps would explode and make scary shooting noises.

• Walking to and from School Alone: There was no carpool.  Even first graders were sent off to school on their own once they learned the way.  Sometimes you tagged along with a sibling or a neighborhood kid who walked the same route so that you weren't totally by yourself, but parents did not worry about bad people lurking along the way.  Dawdling on the way home was allowed, so you could stop off for a snack after school of course.

• X-Rated Movies were Shameful & Disgusting: Sure, they still are, but during the '60s, the only way a "pervert" could see a "Skin-Flick" was to either attend a men's meeting at the local American Legion hall, or travel to the seedy side of town, park a couple of blocks away from the theater, and hope that no one he knew would recognize him.  Nowadays, on-line pornography is just a few mouse-clicks away for anyone with a computer and an Internet connection.


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22 Nov 2019, 9:56 am

^That's pretty much the way it was in the 1960s till the early 70s in most parts of the United States.

I was a latchkey kid.

I was able to stay out from dawn to dusk without having to inform my mother where I went.

I used to try to get onto the back of pickup trucks.

I chewed sugary bubble gum.

I ate the sugary cereals.

Touch-tone phones were a luxury; kids who had them were "cool" kids.

I did the "blood brothers" thing a couple of times.

If there was a long-distance call, even from one state over, us kids had to shut up. It was considered a memorable event to get a long-distance telephone call.

Many others.



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22 Nov 2019, 12:54 pm

I never did the blood brothers thing and by the time I was a teenager divorce was becoming common and by the time I was in college in the latter half of the 70’s it was about half men and half women.

But pretty much everything else mentioned was true. I do remember the seat belt being my mothers hand as a 60s child. Thing was being driven was only for special things such as doctors appointments, grandparents house for the holidays, once a year family vacation, maybe out to a restaurant once a month.

Hitchhiking was not only accepted but romanticized with books such as “On the Road” by Jack Kerouac, and a hit song
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That should not have been, a girl got murdered doing that at my college. When that happened the New York Times turned up 17 reports of girls being threatened or molested in the prior 2 months in that upstate New York college town. Apparently worried about bad publicity the college and local officials did not warn us. Without social media and cable news they were able to cover up the danger.

Related to above I do not remember any impromptu memorials on the side of the road where a person was killed which is common today.

Those sugary foods were bad for me but they sure tasted good

X Rated movies might have been shameful but somehow everybody was able to find and share dad’s copy of Playboy and Penthouse magazines.

Smoking both legal and illegal substances was what the high school bathrooms were for not peeing and sh*****g(poo was a children’s word something no respecting teen would say).

There were no threads to derail :D


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22 Nov 2019, 1:22 pm

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What a stupid idea for a TV show, it'll be cancelled after two episodes if not sooner. :roll:

-Sincerely, a Gen X-er (born in 1974)


What would the show even be about?


Maybe it is about a guy named Boomer, who is a trigger happy gun nut who works with the local SWAT team.



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22 Nov 2019, 1:45 pm

Sit, Boomer! Sit!

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Good dog!


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22 Nov 2019, 3:15 pm

GET OFF MY LAWN!!



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22 Nov 2019, 5:13 pm

TURN THAT CRAP DOWN!!


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22 Nov 2019, 5:19 pm

There was a quarterback named Boomer Esiason in the 80s and 90s.



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22 Nov 2019, 6:28 pm

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There was a quarterback named Boomer Esiason in the 80s and 90s.


Maybe he is hosting a show about Lifestyles of the Arthritic and Cranky?



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22 Nov 2019, 6:52 pm

I would like to see this show if they ever make it.


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I would like to see this show if they ever make it.


Which version of the show mentioned would you like to see?



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23 Nov 2019, 11:45 pm

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Millennials are called the *ME generation* because they're stereotyped as lazy, entitled, self-indulgent.


If this was so true then why would they care about the things like the environment at all. This makes no sense.



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1, A boomer tells them, "DONT GO INTO DEBT". Their response, a dismissive, "OK BOOMER".


B/c the advice is stupid and overly simplistic. They wasn't taught financial literacy by the same gen who gave this advice. They wasn't taught much of anything at all.

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2. They spend enormous money to pursue worthless education.


Yea, they were encouraged to do this by their boomer parents and boomer relatives. They were told ya got to go to college, ya got to go to college. Not just the parents but the teachers.

And, they weren't taught how to evaluate the market at all to determine what degrees if any were good or not. Again, they were not taught much of anything

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3. They live with their parents (Mooch) longer than past generations.


And, maybe that's b/c either there are little to no opportunities for them or if there are opportunities they weren't taught how to spot them and take advantage of them. And, there was one on an episode of Dr. Phil who wanted to be a musician and he did live with his parents to do that. But, the thing is this guy was taught not to care what others, to do anything he sets his mind to, and isn't that what he did? The problem is the boomer parents, not just this guy's parents, created a Frankenstein monster and now they're disgusted at their creation.



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4. The have an entitlement attitude of GIVE ME FREE STUFF.


Or, were they led to believe by their boomer parents, educators and other boomers around them to expect certain things. Like, if you go to college you will get a good job.

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5. They need "safe spaces", because the real world is too harsh on their fine sensibilities.


Is it that they need safe spaces or is it that they were told they can do anything they set their mind to. Weren't they encouraged to change the world, not take any s**t from anyone, not care what others think, to seek justice and to right wrongs. And, not just by their boomer parents, educators but all of the hollywood movies they saw growing up that boomer parents approved. And, weren't they raised by their boomer parents in this sanitized Disney esque environment? Boomers, personality responsibility advocates, and conservatives like yourself act like the millenial generation came and poofed out of a vaccum. If they see something wrong with the next generation that they birthed then shouldn't they look in the mirror?

And, besides if we really want to remove safe spaces then when a child asks where babies come from then let's tell the truth. Let's explain sex and biology instead of saying a stork brings the baby.

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6. They think they're special snowflakes (everyone deserves a medal).


As in there must be winners and losers in life and competition is a part of life. This is the philosophy of our society and other capitalistic societies. Personal responsibility presumes that it is ones choices that led up to one's circumstances and one causes one's choices. If this is the case and life must have winners and losers then how does the philosophy of personal responsibility hold up with competition. Competition predestines that some must lose in various things including life itself. This is one reason why conservative philosophy and thought is BS.

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7. They're a self-absorbed social media generation.


And, the boomer generation and gen x were the self absorbed "watching tv" generation. So, what else is new but the platform?

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8. They need instant gratification.


Who would not want things instantly provided to them if they could have that? If you could get 5 million dollars right away would you turn that down?