goldfish21
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03 Apr 2020, 11:10 am
Fnord wrote:
So the USA really isn't so loathsome to you after all; now that we have things you want, of course, such as face masks and American dollars!
Oh, no, it’s definitely loathsome to think your president would implode relationships with his closest trading partners (that are unfortunately interwoven integral parts of our economies) in what would result in not only damaged relations between our countries, but also a Net Loss in N95 masks for his own country’s doctors and nurses.
Who the f**k does that? Pisses everyone off for no net gain of their own? Guy’s a total idiot. Of course he’s loathsome.
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03 Apr 2020, 11:12 am
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03 Apr 2020, 11:14 am
EzraS wrote:
Didn't I recently hear a rooster crowing about how well prepared and on top of the virus Canada was?
Canada is doing a better job of it. Our federal leadership has clear and unified messaging about it that people are mostly complying with - hence the lower infection and death rates, unlike the USA that currently leads the world with infection rates and eventually death toll.
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03 Apr 2020, 11:15 am
Magna wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
https://globalnews.ca/news/6772979/coronavirus-3m-n95-respirators-trump-canada/
From the link you give: "U.S. President Donald Trump has ordered the Minnesota-based company to produce and sell as many medical-grade masks as the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) says it needs. He invoked the Defense Production Act in order to speed up the distribution of masks."
From Wiki: "The Act contains three major sections. The first authorizes the president to require businesses to accept and prioritize contracts for materials deemed necessary for national defense, regardless of a loss incurred on business (it is unclear what would occur if business refuses or is unable to complete request on time). "
It's an Act typically used in wartime to require manufacturers to either manufacture an existing product for the national defense of the U.S. or to retool and manufacture a product they don't normally make for national defense.
He's invoking the Defense Production Act in relation to 3M (a U.S. company) manufacturing the masks for use within the U.S. This is an entirely different situation than Trump simply asking a company under otherwise normal circumstances to not sell their product to a certain country.
So he's taking a step here to better ensure the safety of the American citizens and reduce the spread of the virus, which is exactly what everyone wants and exactly what he should be doing.
Do you understand what “Net Loss,” means?
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03 Apr 2020, 11:15 am
Fnord wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Didn't I recently hear a rooster crowing about how well prepared and on top of the virus Canada was?
You mean this one?
China give he world coronavirus. Canada gave us Bieber.
03 Apr 2020, 11:16 am
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03 Apr 2020, 11:16 am
Misslizard wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
Fnord wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Canada can make their own damned masks!
I suppose the USA can produce their own electricity and fresh water then, eh?Fake news. California would be in the dark along with other states if we didn’t supply them with power.
And a whole lot of areas would run out of fresh water pretty quick if we turned off the taps. Unfortunately we have contractual obligations to sell water to the USA even in times when your president is a total f*****g dickbag waste of air trying to ruin trade relations and kill our doctors and nurses - all for what has been pointed out to him as a Net Loss of N95 masks to the USA if Canada and Latin America do the same in retaliation.
You don’t supply my state with water or power.
Yeah our President sucks.No argument there.He is not trying to kill your medical staff, he’s trying to save ours.
It’s called triage.
Do you understand what “Net Loss,” means?
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for supporting trump. Because doing so is deplorable.03 Apr 2020, 11:17 am
goldfish21 wrote:
... Who the f**k does that? Pisses everyone off for no net gain of their own? ...
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03 Apr 2020, 11:18 am
Fnord wrote:
Magna wrote:
... So he's taking a step here to better ensure the safety of the American citizens and reduce the spread of the virus, which is exactly what everyone wants and exactly what he should be doing.
An American president should take care of Americans first, not Canadians, not Mexican, not Iranians ... Americans!I know you understand what Net Loss means.
How is trump going to take care of American doctors and nurses with moves that could result in a Net Loss of N95 masks for the USA?
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goldfish21 wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
Fnord wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Canada can make their own damned masks!
I suppose the USA can produce their own electricity and fresh water then, eh?Fake news. California would be in the dark along with other states if we didn’t supply them with power.
And a whole lot of areas would run out of fresh water pretty quick if we turned off the taps. Unfortunately we have contractual obligations to sell water to the USA even in times when your president is a total f*****g dickbag waste of air trying to ruin trade relations and kill our doctors and nurses - all for what has been pointed out to him as a Net Loss of N95 masks to the USA if Canada and Latin America do the same in retaliation.
You don’t supply my state with water or power.
Yeah our President sucks.No argument there.He is not trying to kill your medical staff, he’s trying to save ours.
It’s called triage.
Do you understand what “Net Loss,” means?
Do you understand triage?
03 Apr 2020, 11:20 am
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03 Apr 2020, 11:20 am
Misslizard wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Didn't I recently hear a rooster crowing about how well prepared and on top of the virus Canada was?
Canada is doing a better job of it. Our federal leadership has clear and unified messaging about it that people are mostly complying with - hence the lower infection and death rates, unlike the USA that currently leads the world with infection rates and eventually death toll.
Then you don’t need our masks.
Would you accept it as a fair America first deal if the USA keeps all of the N95 masks 3M produces in the USA and Canada and Latin America keep their production for themselves and refuse to sell them to the USA in return?
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03 Apr 2020, 11:22 am
Misslizard wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
Fnord wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Canada can make their own damned masks!
I suppose the USA can produce their own electricity and fresh water then, eh?Fake news. California would be in the dark along with other states if we didn’t supply them with power.
And a whole lot of areas would run out of fresh water pretty quick if we turned off the taps. Unfortunately we have contractual obligations to sell water to the USA even in times when your president is a total f*****g dickbag waste of air trying to ruin trade relations and kill our doctors and nurses - all for what has been pointed out to him as a Net Loss of N95 masks to the USA if Canada and Latin America do the same in retaliation.
You don’t supply my state with water or power.
Yeah our President sucks.No argument there.He is not trying to kill your medical staff, he’s trying to save ours.
It’s called triage.
Do you understand what “Net Loss,” means?
Do you understand triage?
I’ll take that as a “no.”
Yes, I do understand triage. But I also understand America is not going to be able to perform said triage without N95 masks from Canada and Latin America and you don’t.
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for supporting trump. Because doing so is deplorable.03 Apr 2020, 11:25 am
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