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13 Jun 2020, 3:38 am
^ Along with many writers, musicians and artists who may be more deserving of statues than politicians and tyrants!
Speaking of tyrants, here's a non political statue from North Korea, one of many such unexpectedly whimsical statues in that particular well-insulated republic:
13 Jun 2020, 3:53 am
13 Jun 2020, 3:58 am
Were the Egyptian pyramids built by slaves?
I could Google, but meh.
13 Jun 2020, 4:01 am
Were the Egyptian pyramids built by slaves?
I could Google, but meh.
Start the bulldozers...
13 Jun 2020, 4:04 am
Were the Egyptian pyramids built by slaves?
I could Google, but meh.
Start the bulldozers...
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13 Jun 2020, 4:07 am
Good luck to the bulldozers trying to uproot the pyramids...
13 Jun 2020, 4:12 am
13 Jun 2020, 4:19 am
^ It has been assumed for a long time that the pyramids were built by slaves, however since 1990 various workers cemeteries and living compounds have been unearthed: the high quality with which these were constructed (and in some cases decorated) has lead contemporary Egyptologists to reject the idea that the workers were enslaved.
However: we don’t have direct records indicating one way or the other, and there have been human societies (Pagan era Roman Empire, Imperial China) where slaves could rise to high position within the government and have greater power and wealth than the majority of free persons.
As far as I’m aware we don’t have enough in-depth knowledge of Old-Kingdom Pharaonic Egypt to know if such a discontinuity between free/unfree and high/low status did, or did not, exist.
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I’ve been wondering over the last 24hrs why no-one appears to be targeting the statue of Cromwell outside the Palace of Westminster...
Committed genocide, reduced parliament to a rump of yes-men, ruled by personal decree.
Sounds like a prime target for some sculptural cancellation.
Maybe replace it with a statue of Simon de Montford?
13 Jun 2020, 4:25 am
My preference is to leave the statues and insert plaques that tell the truth 
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13 Jun 2020, 4:47 am
Perhaps the popularity of statues should be determined by the volume of pigeon droppings or lack thereof. 
13 Jun 2020, 5:02 am
However: we don’t have direct records indicating one way or the other, and there have been human societies (Pagan era Roman Empire, Imperial China) where slaves could rise to high position within the government and have greater power and wealth than the majority of free persons.
As far as I’m aware we don’t have enough in-depth knowledge of Old-Kingdom Pharaonic Egypt to know if such a discontinuity between free/unfree and high/low status did, or did not, exist.
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I’ve been wondering over the last 24hrs why no-one appears to be targeting the statue of Cromwell outside the Palace of Westminster...
Committed genocide, reduced parliament to a rump of yes-men, ruled by personal decree.
Sounds like a prime target for some sculptural cancellation.
Maybe replace it with a statue of Simon de Montford?
Yes indeed, I remember one documentary showing the detailed carvings on the outside of the tomb of a craftsman, it was quite a loving depiction of the relationship he had with his wife... Couldnt find it on a google image search though.
Here our People Before Profit political party are lobbying for the Columbus statue in Galway to be removed, or have the plaque altered to acknowledge the Citys role in the slave trade, by supplying local provisions to slave traders.
My preference would be to remove the statue, and replace it with a plaque and street art that records history, as it happened. As a compromise, an accurate record of history to accompany the statue would work too.
Ill pass no comment on Cromwell... except to quote our crooked ex Taosieach
13 Jun 2020, 5:19 am
Most pidgeons are indiscriminate, in regard to their critical commentary.
They are "Bird Brains" after all.
I think it more the case of: "Luck of the Poop".
Although, that theory has fertile grounds for re-analysis.
13 Jun 2020, 5:30 am
My preference would be to remove the statue, and replace it with a plaque and street art that records history, as it happened. As a compromise, an accurate record of history to accompany the statue would work too.
The plaque, and statue, could be an educational tool.
For example,
I was shocked, yesterday, to learn that Australia *did* have slaves at one time.
The problem is,
Your idea is too intellectually savvy for the barbarian anarchist to comprehend.
And where is the neanderthalic emotionalistic satisfaction in not defacing something?
Never gunna happen, sorry.
13 Jun 2020, 6:00 am
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