Republican strategists are starting to panic, fear wipeout

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23 Jun 2020, 7:53 am

He looks like a balding Putin.



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23 Jun 2020, 8:09 am

Who? Biden?



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23 Jun 2020, 8:12 am

The nice thing about subversive tactics -- like reserving tickets and then never showing up to claim them -- is that they are not illegal.

Even if Mr. Trump somehow managed to find out the identities of the people behind it, there is no legal action he could take against them

Besides, there are many more legal tactics that could be undertaken, also in a completely anonymous way.


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23 Jun 2020, 8:17 am

As someone who predicted Trump winning in 2016 I honestly believe he will lose this time and by a significantly larger margin than people suspect. I don't think it will be a ten point landslide but I do honestly think it will be a large Biden win.



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23 Jun 2020, 8:21 am

Past performance is not a reliable indicator of future results.

However, I also hope for Mr. Trump to be defeated in the upcoming election.


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23 Jun 2020, 8:56 am

I honestly can't call this election at this point,there are still to many variables


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23 Jun 2020, 10:21 am

vermontsavant wrote:
I honestly can't call this election at this point,there are still to many variables


Why would anyone vote for the guy who did almost nothing to mitigate the coronavirus pandemic which will result in ~a quarter Million dead Americans by Election Day? :?

One would think that would be a mighty big variable.


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23 Jun 2020, 10:26 am

Oh no, the dems are taking over, we are doomed. We are going to turn into Venezuela.

Trump has showed his true colors thanks to the virus. You would have to be an idiot or not have been watching his speeches to not know this or be racist and a white supremacist despite watching his speeches.

If Trump wins again, I would only know two things. America is full of idiots or we are a racist country and I had been blind to it all because of my privilege.


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23 Jun 2020, 10:28 am

League_Girl wrote:
... If Trump wins again, I would only know two things.  America is full of idiots or we are a racist country and I had been blind to it all because of my privilege.
I am surprised that anyone would need Mr. Trump's re-election to know these things.


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23 Jun 2020, 10:34 am

goldfish21 wrote:
vermontsavant wrote:
I honestly can't call this election at this point,there are still to many variables


Why would anyone vote for the guy who did almost nothing to mitigate the coronavirus pandemic which will result in ~a quarter Million dead Americans by Election Day? :?

One would think that would be a mighty big variable.

People don't always make good decisions plus Biden not much of an option,still to close to call.


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23 Jun 2020, 10:52 am

goldfish21 wrote:
vermontsavant wrote:
I honestly can't call this election at this point,there are still to many variables


Why would anyone vote for the guy who did almost nothing to mitigate the coronavirus pandemic which will result in ~a quarter Million dead Americans by Election Day? :?

One would think that would be a mighty big variable.


I'm curious, and as you seem to have such a facination with Mr Trump and his actions, I was wondering:

Could you outline specifically what he should have done, based on publicly available knowledge available at the time (ignoring hindsight and what you "think" he knew), and was within his power to do, not being a responsibility of the various state governors (feel free to add examples of other countries actions at that same time to contrast his actions with)?

I see a lot of people making claims based on hindsight, or assuming power that he does not have but which instead resides with the state governors, but seeing as you are putting forward so many statements regarding what he should have done, or did not do, I figure you must be the most "informed" person here regarding this, and so should be able to easily and quickly provide a definitive list of exactly what he did wrong, based on the specific knowledge he would have had at the time.

Maybe you could also list anything you believe he did right as well, just to show you are being objective with your claims.



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23 Jun 2020, 11:15 am

Brictoria wrote:
...Could you outline specifically what he should have done, based on publicly available knowledge available at the time (ignoring hindsight and what you "think" he knew)...
An impossible set of conditions. One cannot look at "what he should have done" while simultaneously "ignoring hindsight", because hindsight is required to even speculate on past events, whether real or alternate.

But I think you knew this already.


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23 Jun 2020, 4:14 pm

How hard is it to just move closer to the center of the political spectrum?


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23 Jun 2020, 4:21 pm

If Trump loses Florida, he’s dead meat.



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23 Jun 2020, 5:02 pm

vermontsavant wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
vermontsavant wrote:
I honestly can't call this election at this point,there are still to many variables


Why would anyone vote for the guy who did almost nothing to mitigate the coronavirus pandemic which will result in ~a quarter Million dead Americans by Election Day? :?

One would think that would be a mighty big variable.

People don't always make good decisions plus Biden not much of an option,still to close to call.


If Biden turns out to be America's second worst president ever he'll still represent an improvement over his predecessor, the worst president in American history.


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23 Jun 2020, 8:41 pm

Fnord wrote:
Brictoria wrote:
...Could you outline specifically what he should have done, based on publicly available knowledge available at the time (ignoring hindsight and what you "think" he knew)...
An impossible set of conditions. One cannot look at "what he should have done" while simultaneously "ignoring hindsight", because hindsight is required to even speculate on past events, whether real or alternate.

But I think you knew this already.


Interesting attempt at wilful misdirection...
To simply what I was asking (for those trying to find ways to evade the question), I'll add an example of what I had indicated:
1) Information becomes available on an issue
2) A decision is made\action occurs based on this.
3) Further information appears several days later which would have affected\invalidated the decision.

The decision in step 2 cannot be judged based on the information from step 3 (hindsight), but solely on that available at step 1. Decisions following step 3, however, may be judged against all previous steps.

And now, with that clarified, we can return to:
Brictoria wrote:
Could you outline specifically what he should have done, based on publicly available knowledge available at the time (ignoring hindsight and what you "think" he knew), and was within his power to do, not being a responsibility of the various state governors (feel free to add examples of other countries actions at that same time to contrast his actions with)?

I see a lot of people making claims based on hindsight, or assuming power that he does not have but which instead resides with the state governors, but seeing as you are putting forward so many statements regarding what he should have done, or did not do, I figure you must be the most "informed" person here regarding this, and so should be able to easily and quickly provide a definitive list of exactly what he did wrong, based on the specific knowledge he would have had at the time.

Maybe you could also list anything you believe he did right as well, just to show you are being objective with your claims.