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29 Jun 2020, 3:01 pm

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Australia hasn’t had a death in at least a few days. They’re “stuck” at 104.


Are you saying we are slackards?
We will try harder.
I promise you. :mrgreen:



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29 Jun 2020, 3:05 pm

OK,
The last consideration I am aware of, involving the spike in Melbourne, is that people think the tens of thousands, who marched in the BLM protests, encourage the thinking:
If *they* can break social distancing rulz, then bugger the rules!
Understandable, but irresponsible. :?



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29 Jun 2020, 7:07 pm

Pepe wrote:
OK,
The last consideration I am aware of, involving the spike in Melbourne, is that people think the tens of thousands, who marched in the BLM protests, encourage the thinking:
If *they* can break social distancing rulz, then bugger the rules!
Understandable, but irresponsible. :?


It didn't help, with regards to the protests, that the state government had jumped in early on with the pandemic with harder rules than other states, then gave tacit approval for the protests by not fining those who attended, whereas they were happy to fine people for any other action during that time.



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29 Jun 2020, 8:01 pm

Pepe wrote:
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"Millennials" having a significant influence in spreading the disease.
What else is new. :roll:


We shouldn't criticise them too much.

It was probably the first time in months that they got out of the house and so allowed their parents to have some time to themselves... :D

:mrgreen:

Another reason people believe the spike happened is because of the BLM protest march.

They can believe that but somehow COVID-19 New York with protests and riots keeps on going down.


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30 Jun 2020, 10:37 am

I wonder if anyone will challenge the legality of the new lock-downs we have coming:

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Police will establish border checkpoints to screen residents entering and leaving no-go postcodes as Melbourne suburbs at the centre of the COVID-19 outbreak are plunged back into lockdown.

The hardline enforcement measures, unprecedented in Australia throughout the pandemic, will include booze bus-style border checks on major thoroughfares in and out of 36 suburbs in Melbourne's heavily populated west and north and carry the threat of fines to local residents caught outside their front gate without a valid reason, as they return to stage three lockdown rules.

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The new lockdown regime will come into force at midnight on Wednesday and quarantine more than 300,000 residents living in 10 postcodes from the rest of the city.


Source: https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/police-to-set-up-border-checkpoints-as-hotspots-back-in-lockdown-20200630-p557qd.html

Seems very close to placing residents in those areas under "house arrest", particularly with the provision of road blocks around the area and "fines to local residents caught outside their front gate without a valid reason".



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01 Jul 2020, 6:08 am

Victoria and Andrews is the laughing stock of Australia.
But I'm not laughing. 8O



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01 Jul 2020, 6:10 am

Oh,
One more thing.
Andrews hired untrained security guards to make sure those in quarantine stayed there.
Guess what happened?
What a joke. :roll:



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01 Jul 2020, 6:32 am

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Oh,
One more thing.
Andrews hired untrained security guards to make sure those in quarantine stayed there.
Guess what happened?
What a joke. :roll:


I wouldn't call them "untrained" security guards (having worked in the industry)...Undertrained and\or poorly trained, maybe...And probably understaffed as well for the site and what their duties may be.

Training requirements have dropped (Only a Certificate II needed now), and some places push you through that in a couple of days (including first aid certificate).



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01 Jul 2020, 6:46 am

Brictoria wrote:
Pepe wrote:
Oh,
One more thing.
Andrews hired untrained security guards to make sure those in quarantine stayed there.
Guess what happened?
What a joke. :roll:


I wouldn't call them "untrained" security guards (having worked in the industry)...Undertrained and\or poorly trained, maybe...And probably understaffed as well for the site and what their duties may be.

Training requirements have dropped (Only a Certificate II needed now), and some places push you through that in a couple of days (including first aid certificate).


Untrained in handling the quarantine,
Obviously. :wink:

I wasn't going to say this, but it has been reported that at least one guy hopped into bed with one(?) of the people in isolation, and brought the coronavirus back to his family(?)



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01 Jul 2020, 7:03 am

Pepe wrote:
Brictoria wrote:
Pepe wrote:
Oh,
One more thing.
Andrews hired untrained security guards to make sure those in quarantine stayed there.
Guess what happened?
What a joke. :roll:


I wouldn't call them "untrained" security guards (having worked in the industry)...Undertrained and\or poorly trained, maybe...And probably understaffed as well for the site and what their duties may be.

Training requirements have dropped (Only a Certificate II needed now), and some places push you through that in a couple of days (including first aid certificate).


Untrained in handling the quarantine,
Obviously. :wink:

I wasn't going to say this, but it has been reported that at least one guy hopped into bed with one(?) of the people in isolation, and brought the coronavirus back to his family(?)


Considering some of the guards I used to work with...It really wouldn't surprise me.

There were some really good people I worked with, but also some who did the bare minimum...And only if they couldn't get away with doing less (a lot were just out of school, first job, and living at home with their parents).



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01 Jul 2020, 11:12 pm

I wonder how families would respond to having two burly Moari boys with swabs testkits saying "open up bro" :lol:



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02 Jul 2020, 12:15 am

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I wonder how families would respond to having two burly Moari boys with swabs testkits saying "open up bro" :lol:


I hope you're not making racial or gender based assumptions about the security guards...Besides which, the Maori guys generally get allocated to crowd control roles, whereas the leftovers get these sorts of sites :)

Anyway, it's nurses who do the tests, as far as I know, and I haven't seen a large number of Maori guys in these sorts of roles across the many hospitals I've hed to visit.



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02 Jul 2020, 1:55 am

Sorry just saw the funny side of mandatory virus testing.



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02 Jul 2020, 2:16 am

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Sorry just saw the funny side of mandatory virus testing.


No worries...The male Maori crowd controller is what most associate with security work, but the only Maori I came across working in security was a female (she was in the crowd control section), with Maori's being a minority - A fair number are (or the ones I worked with were) just uni students doing the work for extra money.



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02 Jul 2020, 3:06 am

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Sorry just saw the funny side of mandatory virus testing.


No worries...The male Maori crowd controller is what most associate with security work, but the only Maori I came across working in security was a female (she was in the crowd control section), with Maori's being a minority - A fair number are (or the ones I worked with were) just uni students doing the work for extra money.


I've seen them working as bouncers but yeah, PSOs and security not many.



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02 Jul 2020, 3:45 am

just don't let americans in.


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