Are these protests really a democrat thing?

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14 Jul 2020, 11:22 am

Mr Reynholm wrote:
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We disrupt the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement by supporting each other as extended families and “villages” that collectively care for one another, especially our children, to the degree that mothers, parents, and children are comfortable.
Extended families and shared childcare as communist revolution putting US government system in danger? Man, this system must be really fragile!

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Ms. Pat Cullors is unapologetic in describing Black Lives Matter founders as “trained Marxists,”
Citation with context needed, this isn't even a whole sentence.


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14 Jul 2020, 11:43 am

Mr Reynholm wrote:
BLM: We disrupt the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement by supporting each other as extended families and “villages” that collectively care for one another, especially our children, to the degree that mothers, parents, and children are comfortable.
So, supporting each other, collectively caring for one another (especially) children), and making sure that mothers, parents and children are comfortable are to you, communist ideals ... ?  That's twisted thinking.
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Washington Times: Ms. Pat Cullors is unapologetic in describing Black Lives Matter founders as “trained Marxists,”
One founder of BLM says that she is a trained Marxist, and that makes it so ... ?  If she is truly a Marxist, then why do you trust what she says?  She can't be both trustworthy and untrustworthy at the same time.

The bottom line is that your assertions give me no reason to seriously consider anything you say as valid.



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14 Jul 2020, 11:51 am

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One founder of BLM says that she is a trained Marxist, and that makes it so ... ?  If she is truly a Marxist, then why do you trust what she says?  She can't be both trustworthy and untrustworthy at the same time.

The bottom line is that your assertions give me no reason to seriously consider anything you say as valid.[/color]

How would I get trained to be a Marxist? Can I earn a certificate? Should I put it on my LinkedIn profile along with SafeAgile?


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14 Jul 2020, 12:52 pm

Fnord wrote:
Mr Reynholm wrote:
BLM: We disrupt the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement by supporting each other as extended families and “villages” that collectively care for one another, especially our children, to the degree that mothers, parents, and children are comfortable.
So, supporting each other, collectively caring for one another (especially) children), and making sure that mothers, parents and children are comfortable are to you, communist ideals ... ?  That's twisted thinking.
Mr Reynholm wrote:
Washington Times: Ms. Pat Cullors is unapologetic in describing Black Lives Matter founders as “trained Marxists,”
One founder of BLM says that she is a trained Marxist, and that makes it so ... ?  If she is truly a Marxist, then why do you trust what she says?  She can't be both trustworthy and untrustworthy at the same time.

The bottom line is that your assertions give me no reason to seriously consider anything you say as valid.


So, I take it you are a Democrat and BLM supporter. According to your cult, no contradictory information is valid. So Good Day Sir.



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14 Jul 2020, 1:11 pm

Mr Reynholm wrote:
According to your cult, no contradictory information is valid. So Good Day Sir.

According to cult of Classical Logic, contradictory information is always false, with the famous "p and not p" being the simple always-false sentence.

In real life, information may appear contradictory because of lack of precision of human language. In such cases, clarifications are needed, often additional information like context needs to be provided.


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14 Jul 2020, 1:55 pm

Mr Reynholm wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Mr Reynholm wrote:
BLM: We disrupt the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement by supporting each other as extended families and “villages” that collectively care for one another, especially our children, to the degree that mothers, parents, and children are comfortable.
So, supporting each other, collectively caring for one another (especially) children), and making sure that mothers, parents and children are comfortable are to you, communist ideals ... ?  That's twisted thinking.
Mr Reynholm wrote:
Washington Times: Ms. Pat Cullors is unapologetic in describing Black Lives Matter founders as “trained Marxists,”
One founder of BLM says that she is a trained Marxist, and that makes it so ... ?  If she is truly a Marxist, then why do you trust what she says?  She can't be both trustworthy and untrustworthy at the same time.

The bottom line is that your assertions give me no reason to seriously consider anything you say as valid.
So, I take it you are a Democrat and BLM supporter. According to your cult, no contradictory information is valid. So Good Day Sir.
I am not a Democrat, and my "support" for BLM is to stay out of their way.  I neither lead nor follow any "cult".  Contradictory information is fine, as long as it is both relevant and valid -- yours is neither.

And yes, it is a good day.



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14 Jul 2020, 2:03 pm

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How would I get trained to be a Marxist?
I think you first must give everything you own to the State, and then let them charge you rent for using it.
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Can I earn a certificate?
No, but you do get a new grey flannel suit each year ... no guarantee of fit, though.
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Should I put it on my LinkedIn profile along with SafeAgile?
Hmm ... if you really want to be a Marxist, you would probably have to give up any trappings of bourgeoisie professionalism and accept whatever work assignments the State gives you ... how do you feel about "Roadside Reflector Wiper"?  Never mind, feelings are irrelevant to the State.

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14 Jul 2020, 3:02 pm

Oh okay, but if this movement going on in the U.S. right now is not a democrat thing, then is it true though that these protests are mainly happening in democratic party states though, but not so much in republican party states?



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14 Jul 2020, 3:12 pm

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Oh okay, but if this movement going on in the U.S. right now is not a democrat thing, then is it true though that these protests are mainly happening in democratic party states though, but not so much in republican party states?

From what I could gather, Dems tend to get elected in bigger, more densely populated cities - which coincides with larger manifestations of any kind and - unrelated - faster covid spread despite more restrictive lockdowns. Urban life.


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14 Jul 2020, 3:17 pm

Oh okay, but why are there more protests and riots in dem states though, if what people are saying about that, and that that's true?



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14 Jul 2020, 3:25 pm

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Oh okay, but why are there more protests and riots in dem states though, if what people are saying about that, and that that's true?

Because areas with bigger black communities are more likely to have elected Dems, I guess - if not for other reasons, then simply because of being urban.


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14 Jul 2020, 4:27 pm

So it's the bigger black populations that are mostly protesting and rioting then? Because there are a lot white people in participating in them too, so I didn't think that black populace had much to do with it, unless I am wrong?



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14 Jul 2020, 8:28 pm

Fnord wrote:
Hmm ... if you really want to be a Marxist, you would probably have to give up any trappings of bourgeoisie professionalism and accept whatever work assignments the State gives you ... how do you feel about "Roadside Reflector Wiper"?  Never mind, feelings are irrelevant to the State.

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Well after all her training I hope Ms. Pat Cullors has a talent for wiping roadside reflectors


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14 Jul 2020, 8:33 pm

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So it's the bigger black populations that are mostly protesting and rioting then? Because there are a lot white people in participating in them too, so I didn't think that black populace had much to do with it, unless I am wrong?

Please don't use the words "riot" and "rioting" so generously. There was very little actual rioting after George Floyd's murder. I wouldn't know how to report an accurate number, but my impression is that if you were to consider all the protests that subsequently took place, 99% were totally peaceful. Some protests also occurred in Canada and the UK. The ones in Canada were totally peaceful although apparently a "news organization" called Rebel News would have us think otherwise.


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14 Jul 2020, 10:59 pm

Perhaps rioting is the wrong choice of words, but there are statues and landmarks being destroyed, and some street violence has occurred during this. Perhaps there is a better word for that?



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14 Jul 2020, 11:37 pm

ironpony wrote:
Perhaps rioting is the wrong choice of words, but there are statues and landmarks being destroyed, and some street violence has occurred during this. Perhaps there is a better word for that?


"non-peaceful protest" or "violent protest"?