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29 Jul 2020, 11:49 am
Brictoria wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Brictoria wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Brictoria wrote:
blooiejagwa wrote:
2 (i think 2, my memory is not good with dates) weeks ago, canadian cops freed my funny one from the bathroom after he'd locked himself in (and INSTANTLY had a meltdown, and freaking out so much that he didn't realize he could unlock himself as he's done many times before)
they had to kick the door in , but tried every other way.
they were extremely nice to both kids and very kind and gentle towards the funny one when they were trying to get him to calm down..although he didn't calm down..
funny one has been extricated from this situation before, but he was younger then , so he really had no idea how to unlock the door--
and his rescuers at that time were firefighters, not cops.
i also had 2 cops fine me (very nice people- despite me getting the fine, which was deserved in both cases)
which leads me to believe that the cops in THIS city are very good people overall.
actually my friend Margaret from high school in grade 10 (she was in 11) became a cop too.. after training for the military initially..
i also know a good family friend who is a cop, who is a veryyy good person (if you meet him you can just tell. one of the quiet people who seem extremely sincere and kind when they do speak.. he's done things he didn't need to, out of kindness, that were unnecessary and a hassle really, but he never showed it to be, he takes care of his elderly mom who , after having a mental breakdown , has never been the same - and he indulges all her whims )
they had to kick the door in , but tried every other way.
they were extremely nice to both kids and very kind and gentle towards the funny one when they were trying to get him to calm down..although he didn't calm down..
funny one has been extricated from this situation before, but he was younger then , so he really had no idea how to unlock the door--
and his rescuers at that time were firefighters, not cops.
i also had 2 cops fine me (very nice people- despite me getting the fine, which was deserved in both cases)
which leads me to believe that the cops in THIS city are very good people overall.
actually my friend Margaret from high school in grade 10 (she was in 11) became a cop too.. after training for the military initially..
i also know a good family friend who is a cop, who is a veryyy good person (if you meet him you can just tell. one of the quiet people who seem extremely sincere and kind when they do speak.. he's done things he didn't need to, out of kindness, that were unnecessary and a hassle really, but he never showed it to be, he takes care of his elderly mom who , after having a mental breakdown , has never been the same - and he indulges all her whims )
Unfortunately, in the current political climate, all police are judged as being bad, purely as a result of the actions of a tiny percentage of their group (whilst to the same people, all protesters are "peaceful", even when shining lasers into people's eyes, breaking into properties and looting, or throwing objects at police).
I've personally never had any problem with police, but that's probably because I obey laws and don't try to emulate cultures or people who seem intent on behaving otherwise.
Let's ignorantly pretend your experience matches everyone's experience.
Well, I suppose those who do disobey laws, or emulate those who do so (or show a lack of respect towards fellow humans who happen to serve in the police force) would have a different experience, it is true.
That's a dishonest assessment of the problem and you know it, even if you insist on pretending that people who don't look like you always get the same treatment as you (ignoring their experiences) and regardless of whether or not they obey the law or emulate cultures unfairly slandered as inherently criminal. Pretending institutional racism doesn't exist because you haven't personally experienced it is asinine.
Equally asinine is claiming something exists without being able to provide any supporting evidence.
If "institutional racism" truly existed, why are we not seeing any records\documents to substantiate the claims of its existence?
There are plenty of documents proving institutional/systemic racism. You just choose to ignore them unless they say "Guide to institutional racism," at the top of the page.
Meanwhile, in reality, there are tons of documents outlining "redlining," in the USA, the formation of police forces to capture escaped slaves, of the RCMP in Canada to "protect business interests from Indigenous people," (aka slaughter Indians), the residential school system, hell there are plenty of documents from the purchase and sale of people ffs.
Why do you pretend like people are making up hundreds of years of systemic racism?
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29 Jul 2020, 6:50 pm
goldfish21 wrote:
Brictoria wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Brictoria wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Brictoria wrote:
blooiejagwa wrote:
2 (i think 2, my memory is not good with dates) weeks ago, canadian cops freed my funny one from the bathroom after he'd locked himself in (and INSTANTLY had a meltdown, and freaking out so much that he didn't realize he could unlock himself as he's done many times before)
they had to kick the door in , but tried every other way.
they were extremely nice to both kids and very kind and gentle towards the funny one when they were trying to get him to calm down..although he didn't calm down..
funny one has been extricated from this situation before, but he was younger then , so he really had no idea how to unlock the door--
and his rescuers at that time were firefighters, not cops.
i also had 2 cops fine me (very nice people- despite me getting the fine, which was deserved in both cases)
which leads me to believe that the cops in THIS city are very good people overall.
actually my friend Margaret from high school in grade 10 (she was in 11) became a cop too.. after training for the military initially..
i also know a good family friend who is a cop, who is a veryyy good person (if you meet him you can just tell. one of the quiet people who seem extremely sincere and kind when they do speak.. he's done things he didn't need to, out of kindness, that were unnecessary and a hassle really, but he never showed it to be, he takes care of his elderly mom who , after having a mental breakdown , has never been the same - and he indulges all her whims )
they had to kick the door in , but tried every other way.
they were extremely nice to both kids and very kind and gentle towards the funny one when they were trying to get him to calm down..although he didn't calm down..
funny one has been extricated from this situation before, but he was younger then , so he really had no idea how to unlock the door--
and his rescuers at that time were firefighters, not cops.
i also had 2 cops fine me (very nice people- despite me getting the fine, which was deserved in both cases)
which leads me to believe that the cops in THIS city are very good people overall.
actually my friend Margaret from high school in grade 10 (she was in 11) became a cop too.. after training for the military initially..
i also know a good family friend who is a cop, who is a veryyy good person (if you meet him you can just tell. one of the quiet people who seem extremely sincere and kind when they do speak.. he's done things he didn't need to, out of kindness, that were unnecessary and a hassle really, but he never showed it to be, he takes care of his elderly mom who , after having a mental breakdown , has never been the same - and he indulges all her whims )
Unfortunately, in the current political climate, all police are judged as being bad, purely as a result of the actions of a tiny percentage of their group (whilst to the same people, all protesters are "peaceful", even when shining lasers into people's eyes, breaking into properties and looting, or throwing objects at police).
I've personally never had any problem with police, but that's probably because I obey laws and don't try to emulate cultures or people who seem intent on behaving otherwise.
Let's ignorantly pretend your experience matches everyone's experience.
Well, I suppose those who do disobey laws, or emulate those who do so (or show a lack of respect towards fellow humans who happen to serve in the police force) would have a different experience, it is true.
That's a dishonest assessment of the problem and you know it, even if you insist on pretending that people who don't look like you always get the same treatment as you (ignoring their experiences) and regardless of whether or not they obey the law or emulate cultures unfairly slandered as inherently criminal. Pretending institutional racism doesn't exist because you haven't personally experienced it is asinine.
Equally asinine is claiming something exists without being able to provide any supporting evidence.
If "institutional racism" truly existed, why are we not seeing any records\documents to substantiate the claims of its existence?
Are you high?
Wait, nm, no drug causes racism.No, and I certainly do not appreciate that libellous claim.
goldfish21 wrote:
There are plenty of documents proving institutional/systemic racism. You just choose to ignore them unless they say "Guide to institutional racism," at the top of the page.
Meanwhile, in reality, there are tons of documents outlining "redlining," in the USA, the formation of police forces to capture escaped slaves, of the RCMP in Canada to "protect business interests from Indigenous people," (aka slaughter Indians), the residential school system, hell there are plenty of documents from the purchase and sale of people ffs.
Why do you pretend like people are making up hundreds of years of systemic racism? It makes you sound as ridiculous as a Holocaust denier.
Meanwhile, in reality, there are tons of documents outlining "redlining," in the USA, the formation of police forces to capture escaped slaves, of the RCMP in Canada to "protect business interests from Indigenous people," (aka slaughter Indians), the residential school system, hell there are plenty of documents from the purchase and sale of people ffs.
Why do you pretend like people are making up hundreds of years of systemic racism? It makes you sound as ridiculous as a Holocaust denier.
Setting aside the difference of systemic Vs institutional racism, which you are attempting to conflate here, we were discussing the present day: Unless, of course, you have evidence of "the formation of police forces to capture escaped slaves", the RCMP "slaughtering Indians", or "documents from the purchase and sale of people" occuring now (or in the past few years), in which case I'm sure there are plenty of people who would love to see them...
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29 Jul 2020, 9:40 pm
These things have all continued to present day.
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