Bill Clinton named in Epstein depositions.

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01 Aug 2020, 12:36 am

Virginia Roberts Guiffre seems to contradict herself.

She makes the claim that Clinton spent time on the island with two "young girls" from NY but then she says;
“I remember asking Jeffrey (Epstein) what’s Bill Clinton doing here kind of thing, and he laughed it off and said ‘well he owes me a favor,” Guiffre told lawyer Jack Scarola in a 2011 phone interview.

“He never told me what favors they were,” Guiffre explained. “I never knew. I didn’t know if he was serious. It was just a joke . . . He told me a long time ago that everyone owes him favors. They’re all in each other’s pockets.”
Giuffre then said that “orgies were a constant thing that took place” on the island, but did not say specifically whether Clinton was involved.

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/eps ... ung-girls/
No wonder no action was ever taken, nothing likely is new here



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01 Aug 2020, 1:03 am

cyberdad wrote:
Virginia Roberts Guiffre seems to contradict herself.

She makes the claim that Clinton spent time on the island with two "young girls" from NY but then she says;
“I remember asking Jeffrey (Epstein) what’s Bill Clinton doing here kind of thing, and he laughed it off and said ‘well he owes me a favor,” Guiffre told lawyer Jack Scarola in a 2011 phone interview.

“He never told me what favors they were,” Guiffre explained. “I never knew. I didn’t know if he was serious. It was just a joke . . . He told me a long time ago that everyone owes him favors. They’re all in each other’s pockets.”
Giuffre then said that “orgies were a constant thing that took place” on the island, but did not say specifically whether Clinton was involved.

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/eps ... ung-girls/
No wonder no action was ever taken, nothing likely is new here


Not seeing any contradiction...She said he was there, but was never asked about what he did while there (earlier she had said she wasn't going to specifically name people and the actions she took with them (top of page 12, which is page 13 in pdf linked in original post)).



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01 Aug 2020, 3:29 am

Brictoria wrote:
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So when Bill Clinton's name was named,was it in oral testimony.

I believe it was a telephone interview\deposition, which was recorded (with consent) with Virginia Roberts in April 2011, according to the first page after the coversheet (link in initial post above).

She lives in Australia (had for 19 years at that point), and said this started in or around 1998.

Just noticed: on page 14 (15 of the PDF due to cover sheet) Bill Clinton and Al Gore are also mentioned as having been on the plane as well...And it seems she was interviewed about this by the FBI in 2007, with Epstein's lawyers, then himself contacting her 1-2 weeks later.
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01 Aug 2020, 4:06 am

vermontsavant wrote:
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So when Bill Clinton's name was named,was it in oral testimony.

I believe it was a telephone interview\deposition, which was recorded (with consent) with Virginia Roberts in April 2011, according to the first page after the coversheet (link in initial post above).

She lives in Australia (had for 19 years at that point), and said this started in or around 1998.

Just noticed: on page 14 (15 of the PDF due to cover sheet) Bill Clinton and Al Gore are also mentioned as having been on the plane as well...And it seems she was interviewed about this by the FBI in 2007, with Epstein's lawyers, then himself contacting her 1-2 weeks later.
Think you missed a joke :D


Yep, Only realised following the comment after mine...

There are days when I need <joke> tags to see the joke, and others where I see a joke that wasn't even intended - You caught me on one of the former this time. :)



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01 Aug 2020, 4:10 am

Brictoria wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Virginia Roberts Guiffre seems to contradict herself.

She makes the claim that Clinton spent time on the island with two "young girls" from NY but then she says;
“I remember asking Jeffrey (Epstein) what’s Bill Clinton doing here kind of thing, and he laughed it off and said ‘well he owes me a favor,” Guiffre told lawyer Jack Scarola in a 2011 phone interview.

“He never told me what favors they were,” Guiffre explained. “I never knew. I didn’t know if he was serious. It was just a joke . . . He told me a long time ago that everyone owes him favors. They’re all in each other’s pockets.”
Giuffre then said that “orgies were a constant thing that took place” on the island, but did not say specifically whether Clinton was involved.

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/eps ... ung-girls/
No wonder no action was ever taken, nothing likely is new here


Not seeing any contradiction...She said he was there, but was never asked about what he did while there (earlier she had said she wasn't going to specifically name people and the actions she took with them (top of page 12, which is page 13 in pdf linked in original post)).


I think she heard something secondhand which is admissable as evidence.

Leave poor old Bill to enjoy his his old age

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01 Aug 2020, 4:15 am

cyberdad wrote:
Brictoria wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Virginia Roberts Guiffre seems to contradict herself.

She makes the claim that Clinton spent time on the island with two "young girls" from NY but then she says;
“I remember asking Jeffrey (Epstein) what’s Bill Clinton doing here kind of thing, and he laughed it off and said ‘well he owes me a favor,” Guiffre told lawyer Jack Scarola in a 2011 phone interview.

“He never told me what favors they were,” Guiffre explained. “I never knew. I didn’t know if he was serious. It was just a joke . . . He told me a long time ago that everyone owes him favors. They’re all in each other’s pockets.”
Giuffre then said that “orgies were a constant thing that took place” on the island, but did not say specifically whether Clinton was involved.

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/eps ... ung-girls/
No wonder no action was ever taken, nothing likely is new here


Not seeing any contradiction...She said he was there, but was never asked about what he did while there (earlier she had said she wasn't going to specifically name people and the actions she took with them (top of page 12, which is page 13 in pdf linked in original post)).


I think she heard something secondhand which is admissable as evidence.

Leave poor old Bill to enjoy his his old age

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From what I know second hand knowledge is hearsay and is not admissible.


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01 Aug 2020, 4:24 am

sorry I mean't "not admissable"

Bill has long had a reputation so it wouldn't entirely be shocking he was fooling around but I would be surprised if they were underaged.



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03 Aug 2020, 4:49 pm

Brictoria wrote:
This could get interesting. Bill Clinton was named as having been on the Epstein island in one of the depositions unsealed today...


Being that this information (deposition, etc.) were from 2011, it would be interesting to know who was in charge of the FBI at the time, and why the case against Jeffrey wasn't pursued.


Given what's happening in the White House now, seems a bit strange to be interested in something from nine years ago to someone who's no longer serving in Washington.