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Care to share any alleged examples of "en masse" violence by "anti-trump kids"? Please provide links to reputable sources.

Do I really need to post examples of the election riots of 2016, as if it isn't something most everyone saw on the news and knows about? Or the more recent Portland and similar riots? Am I leaping to too much of a conclusion that all those BLM, Antifa, defund the police et al rioters mostly consisted of those who are most likely anti-trump?





There's hundreds of hours of news footage like this, from virtually every news source on earth. Surely you must have seen some of it.



And now all the footage of all the post election MAGA rioters:

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Islamic terror attacks have included both directed and lone wolf attacks by self-radicalized individuals, just like domestic far-right terrorist incidents on American soil.

You said what I said, self-radicalized individuals, as in acting on their own.

The difference is I'm not willing to pretend that those who spread the ideologies that they embrace are blameless. Yes, we agree that those people aren't being directed by organizations, we seem to disagree on whether or not those who've contributed to their radicalization bear blame.

It is nice to know our moderators are capable of a sense of humour .

Here's the thing: Right wingers insist on confusing nonviolent BLM protests with "riots". In fact the protesters were quite distinct from the looters. The latter were not protesters, but were criminal gangs taking advantage of the fact that the cops' attention was tied up with watching the protesters.

As for the antifa, there has been some occasional violence by them (e.g. punching Richard Spencer), but no one has been killed by them, as far as I am aware.

EDIT: Looking at your videos now. The Portland one appears to show violence by police, not by the protesters, as far as I can tell. I'll look at the others later.

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Contributed is a pretty loose term. If a shooter says "God made me do it", is his grandmother who took him to church guilty of contributing? I'm guessing you are saying Donald Trump is responsible for lone shooters, yes? I mean that's been an anti-trump approach right? That Trump is radicalizing his MAGA cult to an ISIS, Al Qaeda level of violence? That was supposed to take place the day he lost the election? He did lose, there's no point in continuing to campaign against him. It's over with.

It's amazing how a single sentence I typed expressing my opinion has lead to such a massive derail. I'm not god you know, what I think isn't some law you have to aggressively disprove.

Tell you what Mona and FXE, I take it back. Alright? Enough already.

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No need for drama; just admit you are wrong.

Wrong about what, that the anti-trump riots were committed by those who are anti-trump?

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I'm afraid we're going back to the old problem of winged press.
The vast majority of BLM protests were peaceful, at least until their first indiscriminate pepper-spraying - a very unprofessional reaction, I'm really glad they didn't do it here when we had anti-gov protests a few weeks ago.
Looting did happen. Violence did happen. Police violence did happen. Peaceful protests did happen.
Now the media chose which parts to report.

I have been on an anti Trumper tirade this week time for an anti "woke" detour.

In a lot of revolutionary movements, there is the peaceful protest wing of people who are mostly legitimately anti-violent. All political movements need anti-violent rhetoric to gain the support or at least some sympathy from the comfortable. "Woke" is not a reform movement it is a revolutionary one because it seeks to change the fundamental understanding of America and its history and seeks to get rid of American institutions such as the nuclear family and the police and government and build replacements.

"Mostly peaceful protests" is both literally true and misleading. I have not read too many BLM and Antifa chapter heads denouncing their violent wings because their violent wings are not a bug they are a feature.

The bottom line is one side who's always saying how violent the other side is, has been far more involved in displaying acts of angry violence collectively on a large scale.

At least we now know who has imbibed of Trump's kool-aid...