Confederate flag tied to door of Museum of Jewish Heritage

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12 Jan 2021, 5:06 pm

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Antisemitism in the antebellum american south was no worse than the antisemitism of the antebellum northern US, and that of both sections was probably less than the antisemitism of any country in Europe in the 19th Century.

So if you take the confederate flag as being just that...representing the south, or the confederacy, then it makes no sense to stick it on a Jewish museum.

However, burning a cross on the front lawn of a synagogue does have meaning, because the KKK was antisemitic, anti White immigrant, and anti Catholic, as well as being anti Black.

You could equate a confederate flag with a cross burning. But folks who wave the Confederate flag today claim it represents "heritage not hate". So...if you are a hoodlum who sticks flags onto properties you gotta make up your mind....which IS it...heritage, or hate? Ya cant have it both ways. So if it's heritage, then ...use the stars and bars for Black properties, and use the swastika for Jewish properties. :lol:

I mean...the literacy level of hoodlums and vandals these days just isnt what it used to be!

Seriously? So if the flag is not a symbol of antisemitism in this case, what are the alternative meanings? A celebration of heritage?

You might be interested in these:

Hebrew Benevolent Congregation bombing

List of attacks on Jewish institutions in the United States

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12 Jan 2021, 5:12 pm

Well, these are some of the groups the Extreme Right in the US love hating:

- Atheists
- Muslims
- Jews
- The entire state of California
- Non-Evangelical Christians (especially if they are Black)
- LGBT people
- Black people (especially Black people who vote)
- Chinese people
- Mexican people
- The People

Obviously, it is very impractical to create a distinct Hate flag for *each* of these groups, so they need to make their symbols of Hate more inclusive (huh?).

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12 Jan 2021, 5:37 pm

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Even in Australia we know that innocent patriotism tied with the confederate flag from the 1970s has now changed. The flag has since been appropriated by racists. The intention was clearly communicated when it was tied to the museum door.

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12 Jan 2021, 5:40 pm

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I would save the trouble of listing groups and just put
- all non-white people
- muslims and jews
- LGBTQI
- left wingers

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12 Jan 2021, 5:43 pm

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Don't forget disabled people.

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12 Jan 2021, 5:51 pm

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Don't forget disabled people.

Depends on i) the disability and ii) the relationship to the aforementioned racist.

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12 Jan 2021, 5:57 pm

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That closely matches my list of: Atheists, Communists, Feminists, Foreigners, Liberals, Minorities, Queerfolk, Socialists, and Women -- It should now read, "The People, including Atheists, Californians, non-evangelical Christians, Communists, the Courts, Feminists, Foreigners, Jews, Liberals, the Media, Minorities, Muslims, Queerfolk, Socialists, and Women, as well".

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12 Jan 2021, 6:11 pm

cyberdad wrote:

Bravo5150 wrote:

GGPViper wrote:

Don't forget disabled people.

Depends on i) the disability and ii) the relationship to the aforementioned racist.

Most people I have met on the extreme right seem tolerant of people who are simply paralyzed but find problems like being on the the spectrum as revolting if not more than being LGBT.

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12 Jan 2021, 6:20 pm

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Most people I have met on the extreme right seem tolerant of people who are simply paralyzed but find problems like being on the the spectrum as revolting if not more than being LGBT.

Correct to some extent, paralysis is tolerated but being born with cerebral palsy or muscle wasting disease is less so.

Neurodevelopment or brain damage is not. Right wingers are split on these since many are christian so anti-abortion so end up stuck with a child who is (for example) downs syndrome.

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12 Jan 2021, 6:25 pm

cyberdad wrote:

Bravo5150 wrote:

Most people I have met on the extreme right seem tolerant of people who are simply paralyzed but find problems like being on the the spectrum as revolting if not more than being LGBT.

I don't understand the who anti-abortion idea either? How can you call abortion murder, but then condone killing for various reasons outside of self-defense?

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12 Jan 2021, 6:29 pm

Bravo5150 wrote:

cyberdad wrote:

Bravo5150 wrote:

Most people I have met on the extreme right seem tolerant of people who are simply paralyzed but find problems like being on the the spectrum as revolting if not more than being LGBT.

I don't understand the who anti-abortion idea either? How can you call abortion murder, but then condone killing for various reasons outside of self-defense?

A lot of them are looneys. The far right subscribe to the Spartan rule where a child considered physically or mentally disabled would be left to the wolves so they don't burden the tribe or pass on their progeny.

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12 Jan 2021, 6:34 pm

cyberdad wrote:

Bravo5150 wrote:

cyberdad wrote:

Bravo5150 wrote:

Most people I have met on the extreme right seem tolerant of people who are simply paralyzed but find problems like being on the the spectrum as revolting if not more than being LGBT.

I don't understand the who anti-abortion idea either? How can you call abortion murder, but then condone killing for various reasons outside of self-defense?

So, it's ok to kill a kid after you discover they are a burden because of a disability, but it isnt ok to plan an abortion when you know up front the kid will be too much of a burden before it's born.

Sounds like someone taking a George Carlin joke too literally.

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12 Jan 2021, 7:06 pm

cyberdad wrote:

GGPViper wrote:

I would save the trouble of listing groups and just put
- all non-white people
- muslims and jews
- LGBTQI
- left wingers

Anitifa and BLM.

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12 Jan 2021, 7:07 pm

Bravo5150 wrote:

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Don't forget disabled people.

But yet they are against abortion. Gee I thought they would rather have disabled fetuses be aborted if the parents find out.

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12 Jan 2021, 7:13 pm

League_Girl wrote:

Bravo5150 wrote:

GGPViper wrote:

Don't forget disabled people.

But yet they are against abortion. Gee I thought they would rather have disabled fetuses be aborted if the parents find out.

Believe it or not, I have actually had some imbeciles try to tell me that their tactless belief was a better argument than my factual observations about religion.

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12 Jan 2021, 9:34 pm

League_Girl wrote:

cyberdad wrote:

GGPViper wrote:

I would save the trouble of listing groups and just put
- all non-white people
- muslims and jews
- LGBTQI
- left wingers

Anitifa and BLM.

They "conveniently" fall under commies

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