22 Jan 2021, 9:48 am
Pepe wrote:
I can't see why it isn't a possibility.
You are susceptible to sensationalist drivel. I grew up in microbiology labs, this isn't the kind of man-made sequence one can hide.
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22 Jan 2021, 9:58 am
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22 Jan 2021, 1:56 pm
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
cberg wrote:
Pepe wrote:
I can't see why it isn't a possibility.
You are susceptible to sensationalist drivel. I grew up in microbiology labs, this isn't the kind of man-made sequence one can hide.
Are you a virologist?
Yet in 2004:
https://www.biospace.com/article/around ... -lab-leak/
No, I work with mapping software, which is also relevant here. My mom is a microbiology PhD & runs pharmaceutical trials for a living. You can bet your asses I'd be hearing about it if there were any man-made aspect of this virus. The human factor consisted of a lacking response to isolated outbreaks.
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22 Jan 2021, 2:15 pm
auntblabby wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Yep all roads lead to Rome
Every lead goes back to a story of a biolab in Wuhan leaking the virus into the public
Every lead goes back to a story of a biolab in Wuhan leaking the virus into the public
why did the US and Canada give that lab money? to the tune of $600,000?
Giving a totalitarian government money for their bio-weapon department?
Is that what you mean?
Sounds like a bad idea to me.
22 Jan 2021, 2:17 pm
You're on a racist tear as far as I can tell. So is China to be fair but this is pure xenophobic BS.
I don't see spontaneous nuclear wars going on & the destruction is comparable. What the hell are you actually talking about?
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22 Jan 2021, 2:27 pm
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
GGPViper wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
https://en.as.com/en/2020/09/15/latest_news/1600196698_232755.html
this one is official: https://lb.usembassy.gov/fact-sheet-act ... -virology/
this one is official: https://lb.usembassy.gov/fact-sheet-act ... -virology/
The former has been rejected by the scientific community
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Li-Meng_Y ... _community
The latter is a political statement made by the (now extinct) Trump administration.
SARS leaked from lab in China before .....TWICE!. What's so unbelievable about that it may have happened third time?
Oh, don't bring 'facts' into the conversation.
It only complicates things.
[facetiousness]The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Not everything in the Trump era must be necessarily wrong or fabricated.
A rather reasonable statement.
On the other hand, to suggest the opposite is cyclopean partisan ludicrousness.
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
And those same WHO scientists have been advising people against the usage of masks(except health workers) for months before admitting their mistake.
Firstly, the WHO has lost an enormous amount of credibility.
Secondly, there were some in the medical fraternity who admitted it was a lie and explained the real reason they poo-pooed mask-wearing was because they had a shortage of supply, and the medical advisors wanted to save the PPE for the front-line personnel.
Moral of the story: You can't blindly trust everything people say.
22 Jan 2021, 2:28 pm
22 Jan 2021, 2:33 pm
jimmy m wrote:
If the virus was created and release intentionally, then one might expect that the process would be refined and the effort accelerated. This refinement might take the form of genetically modifying the current virus to make it more lethal, or more contagious. Or to make the virus immune from vaccines currently being developed and deployed. In essence to make the vaccines useless. It might take the form of a variant of the current virus, such as the South African variant.
Also, consider:
If it was deliberately let loose, it would have been better to send it overseas to do so.
In that way, the origin of the virus could have been blamed on someone else, as they are doing now.
It makes no sense, what-so-ever, to suggest it was deliberately released at the original origin. [yes, the hard assumption made]
If it was created in a lab, it *had* to be an accidental, err, accident.
22 Jan 2021, 2:34 pm
22 Jan 2021, 2:35 pm
Pepe wrote:
cberg wrote:
Pepe wrote:
I can't see why it isn't a possibility.
You are susceptible to sensationalist drivel. I grew up in microbiology labs, this isn't the kind of man-made sequence one can hide.
Personal attack noted.
You're attacking scientific truth & insulting the WHO by ignoring a critical logistics problem under the guise of "critical thinking".
You just said you'd prefer to have hoarded the masks some hospital needed.
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22 Jan 2021, 2:36 pm
Pepe wrote:
cberg wrote:
You're on a racist tear as far as I can tell. So is China to be fair but this is pure xenophobic BS.
I don't see spontaneous nuclear wars going on & the destruction is comparable. What the hell are you actually talking about?
I don't see spontaneous nuclear wars going on & the destruction is comparable. What the hell are you actually talking about?
Personal attack noted.
I get that you feel entitled to play the victim when you're spreading disinformation that could actually hurt people, but give it a rest for once. This is actually life & death we are discussing.
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22 Jan 2021, 2:37 pm
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
jimmy m wrote:
If the virus was created and release intentionally, then one might expect that the process would be refined and the effort accelerated. This refinement might take the form of genetically modifying the current virus to make it more lethal, or more contagious. Or to make the virus immune from vaccines currently being developed and deployed. In essence to make the vaccines useless. It might take the form of a variant of the current virus, such as the South African variant.
I lean more to the accident theory rather than intentional.
If it was a man-made virus, I am in total agreement, for the rationale I have previously provided.
