26 Jan 2021, 1:09 am
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26 Jan 2021, 2:52 am
naturalplastic wrote:
kitesandtrainsandcats wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Heck, when you out it that way, "we" are still learning things about the cold virus! So why all the fear?
That is something which those who have all the fear will have to provide a response for.
When I am watching and participating in conversation with currently practicing physicians who are actively treating covid patients, and at least one who is currently recovering from covid himself, and they are talking about things still unknown about covid 19, that leads me to regard a politician who says "the science around this virus is settled", as either ignorant, as lying through their teeth, or as an idiot, or some combination of those.
You gotta check your autism once in a while. The guy is a politician, so he is addressing the aspects of the disease that have become politicized.
The pol said that "the science around" [the aspects of the disease that he was talking about] ...which is the topic of how the thing is spread "are settled". He was saying "masks...distancing...washing your hands" works and are vital to slow the spread of the pandemic (ie "dont let anyone tell you the guidelines arent good guidelines"). And I think that is basically right that that stuff IS indeed settled. But it's that aspect (social distancing and masks etc) that are what have become politicized. So thats why he, a politician, is talking about it.
In typical autistic fashion you took him too literally, and took him to mean "we now know everything about it- not just about how its spread- but about every damn thing about it". Further you -went on to imply that this virus could screw up people even worse than most now suspect- by permanently damaging your lungs- if you engage in athletic occupations like the military. If that guy heard you say that he would reply "so you think that this virus is even worse than I thought it was?...all the more reason that its settled that we need to practice social distancing and wear masks like I just said- thanks for agreeing with me!".
There is a difference between getting the gist of it or “being in the ballpark” and the situation with COVID-19 where many many key elements are not known. My guess is she momentarily confused the climate change controversies with the coronavirus controversies. That said it was still an irresponsible thing to say. As an elected official she has to
be a lot more exacting then some people having an informal conversation.
26 Jan 2021, 4:27 am
kitesandtrainsandcats wrote:
The science is settled?
Seriously?
We actually now know everything we need to know about Covid 19?
https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/ ... 668851002/
Seriously?
We actually now know everything we need to know about Covid 19?
Quote:
""The science around this virus is settled, and if we can all wear masks and be very smart about congregating, and not do it unless it's necessary, washing our hands, doing that social distancing, we will be in a strong position in a few weeks," Whitmer said during a press conference. "
https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/ ... 668851002/
To: Kites
Would it kill you to admit the truth that you're 100 percent wrong?
She said that "the science is settled" about the fact that...
we need to wash our hands not congregate etc etc etc.
Your contention is that she is wrong, and that the science is NOT settled. So that means you believe that its OK to...NOT wear masks, its ok to congregate in big crowds, and not do social distancing, etc.
So... IS that what you believe?
Yes or no?
If the answer is yes..that you believe that we can dispense with social distancing and handwashing -then you are right to pick a fight with what the governor said.
If the answer is no...then you have no point to make, and no argument with what the governor said when she said "the science is settled".
26 Jan 2021, 9:29 am
27 Jan 2021, 11:38 am
Science must never be questioned!
27 Jan 2021, 11:55 am
Mr Reynholm wrote:
Science must never be questioned!
Science must always be questioned. People asking the questions must also be scrutinized though, particularly when they are trying to undercut basic well substantiated principles for what are probably selfish economical reasons.
Sigbold wrote:
First off all this article is only slightly science related. And is more a political declaration. And in my experience for anything related to statements about scientific research it is best to get as close to the original research publications as possible. In this case it is at best a third hand source. Which might be good enough for most politicians (like this governor), who are in most cases only interested in ad hoc justifications for their policies. But should not considered as gospel by those who want to think critically (not to be confused with critical theory) about political decision making.
Well written.
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31 Jan 2021, 6:55 pm
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Studies showed it may cause lasting heart problems too; to about 20% of who had it, even among the asymptomatic ones.
It sounds more and more like the majority of marriages.
Stuck, mentally affected, can't breathe, heart issues, stay-at-home...
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31 Jan 2021, 6:56 pm
kraftiekortie wrote:
I don’t mean to be technical—but Michigan’s governor is a woman.
Degrade me, bby.
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31 Jan 2021, 7:09 pm
kitesandtrainsandcats wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
So that means you believe that its OK to...NOT wear masks, its ok to congregate in big crowds, and not do social distancing, etc.
From what fantasy reality did you construct that?
Ya know, jumping to totally unfounded wrong conclusions is a red flag that the person speaking may be and likely is a conservative evangelical Trump supporter.
I got it from YOU. Because thats what you said. The governor lady said that the science of X (that we should wear masks and do social distancing) is "settled". You said the science is FAR from settled. If you meant that the "science of X" is "not settled" then you can only be taken to mean that the science of "masks/social distancing etc" is not settled, ergo we can dispense with masks and social distancing.
It may not be what you MEANT to say. But it IS effectively what you said.
If you meant that "yes, the science of the X aspect of covid is settled, but the science of the Y, Z, A, B, C, and D, of covid is far from settled" then...ya shoulda said it that way.
