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03 May 2021, 10:24 am

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Consider the source and ask yourself if it seems credible. :nerdy:
Or you could digest the content and make up your own mind.
It is hard to digest that which is obviously inedible. :eew:



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03 May 2021, 10:38 am

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Consider the source and ask yourself if it seems credible. :nerdy:
Or you could digest the content and make up your own mind.
It is hard to digest that which is obviously inedible. :eew:


It's up to you to prove that it's "inedible."


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03 May 2021, 10:45 am

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Consider the source and ask yourself if it seems credible. :nerdy:


Or you could digest the content and make up your own mind.


I have, it's not credible.


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03 May 2021, 10:50 am

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I'm curious to see the original clip. We only see about six seconds of Milano saying:

For those of us who are not black men, imagine watching the news and seeing how people...

Given the response and accusation, I can only assume ...
Given the response and accusation, it seems obvious that Ms. Milano's accuser is jumping on the opportunity for some free publicity.

Alyssa Milano posted a video of herself lecturing white people on what it is like to be a person of color (specifically, a black man, which she is not), for which she was unfairly slammed for allegedly having racist views.

At worst, she could be guilty of virtue-signaling.

Ms. Milano racist?  Doubtful.

Ms. Milano clueless?  More likely.



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03 May 2021, 10:52 am

funeralxempire wrote:
VegetableMan wrote:
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Consider the source and ask yourself if it seems credible. :nerdy:


Or you could digest the content and make up your own mind.


I have, it's not credible.


Good. A counterpoint would be in order, now.


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03 May 2021, 11:00 am

VegetableMan wrote:
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VegetableMan wrote:
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Consider the source and ask yourself if it seems credible.
Or you could digest the content and make up your own mind.
I have, it's not credible.
Good. A counterpoint would be in order, now.
I would like to see the original video Ms. Milano posted, in its entirety; but Instagram requires a subscription first.



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03 May 2021, 11:06 am

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Good. A counterpoint would be in order, now.


Why? There's always going to be people who spout contrarian nonsense just to stir the pot. I don't owe those people further engagement.


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03 May 2021, 11:13 am

funeralxempire wrote:
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Good. A counterpoint would be in order, now.
Why? There's always going to be people who spout contrarian nonsense just to stir the pot. I don't owe those people further engagement.
Actually, I think VM may be looking for evidence to counter the claims made in the video PP posted.  I mean, we have only a 4-second clip of Ms. Milano speaking, and that clip was cut off well before anyone could know what she actually said.  Personally, I am not a fan of Ms. Milano; I just want the full story without some other wannabe celeb on YouTube telling me what to think.



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03 May 2021, 11:14 am

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Good. A counterpoint would be in order, now.


Why? There's always going to be people who spout contrarian nonsense just to stir the pot. I don't owe those people further engagement.


Because that's how discussions and debates work.

A true "contrarian" is not someone who argues against something just for the sake of arguing.


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03 May 2021, 11:22 am

Fnord wrote:
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Good. A counterpoint would be in order, now.
Why? There's always going to be people who spout contrarian nonsense just to stir the pot. I don't owe those people further engagement.
Actually, I think VM may be looking for evidence to counter the claims made in the video PP posted.  I mean, we have only a 4-second clip of Ms. Milano speaking, and that clip was cut off well before anyone could know what she actually said.  Personally, I am not a fan of Ms. Milano; I just want the full story without some other wannabe celeb on YouTube telling me what to think.


I'll wait until there's something significant before I believe it or disbelieve it.
She's not someone I care about or care to defend but so far there isn't really much of a story. If there is a story more details will come out and we'll see.


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03 May 2021, 11:27 am

I want to know what she exactly said that was white supremist. Seeing that she is an activist, I find this questionable. Who is calling her that? Is it the left or the right?


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03 May 2021, 11:30 am

Sounds like here Alyssa was speaking against racism in America and it got taken out of context by @thisissavvy.

https://meaww.com/alyssa-milano-is-whit ... -divisions

I think it was out of a podcast. I would like to hear the whole thing. I am sure it was against racism in America given that she has fought against racism as well and spoke against it.


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03 May 2021, 11:31 am

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Fnord wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
VegetableMan wrote:
Good. A counterpoint would be in order, now.
Why? There's always going to be people who spout contrarian nonsense just to stir the pot. I don't owe those people further engagement.
Actually, I think VM may be looking for evidence to counter the claims made in the video PP posted.  I mean, we have only a 4-second clip of Ms. Milano speaking, and that clip was cut off well before anyone could know what she actually said.  Personally, I am not a fan of Ms. Milano; I just want the full story without some other wannabe celeb on YouTube telling me what to think.
I'll wait until there's something significant before I believe it or disbelieve it.  She's not someone I care about or care to defend but so far there isn't really much of a story.  If there is a story more details will come out and we'll see.
And that is the point: We do not know what Ms. Milano actually said, yet there are people who would take Savannah Edwards' rant as "evidence" of Ms. Milano's alleged racism.

I really think Ms. Milano may have cluelessly and insensitively engaged in virtue-signaling at the very worst, and that Ms. Edwards is using this as an opportunity to engage a little in phony indignation of her own for the free publicity it brings.

You know ... another episode in the ongoing Battle of The Celebrity Egos.

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03 May 2021, 11:35 am

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Fnord wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
VegetableMan wrote:
Good. A counterpoint would be in order, now.
Why? There's always going to be people who spout contrarian nonsense just to stir the pot. I don't owe those people further engagement.
Actually, I think VM may be looking for evidence to counter the claims made in the video PP posted.  I mean, we have only a 4-second clip of Ms. Milano speaking, and that clip was cut off well before anyone could know what she actually said.  Personally, I am not a fan of Ms. Milano; I just want the full story without some other wannabe celeb on YouTube telling me what to think.


I'll wait until there's something significant before I believe it or disbelieve it.
She's not someone I care about or care to defend but so far there isn't really much of a story. If there is a story more details will come out and we'll see.


Well, that's a good policy. However, this conversation got started when a member suggested all YouTube videos should be banned, except for corporate news sources. Yikes!

There are exceptional journalists on YouTube, and there are crackpots. It would be a sorry day on this forum if that should happen.


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03 May 2021, 11:38 am

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... a member suggested all YouTube videos should be banned, except for corporate news sources... There are exceptional journalists on YouTube, and there are crackpots. It would be a sorry day on this forum if that should happen.
Sure, do not ban YouTube; but do not let YouTube do your thinking for you, either.



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03 May 2021, 11:40 am

Fnord wrote:
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... a member suggested all YouTube videos should be banned, except for corporate news sources... There are exceptional journalists on YouTube, and there are crackpots. It would be a sorry day on this forum if that should happen.
Sure, do not ban YouTube; but do not let YouTube do your thinking for you, either.


I've already agreed with you on that. Why do keep repeating it?


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