25 May 2021, 8:55 am
Pepe wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
Let's see what results from this....
Take note of the change of position.
Remember, some categorically denied the *possibility*.
Some have no concept of scientific skepticism, and blindly accept anything which is presented to them.
They embrace the false premise that everything is settled when it suits their political/ideological position.
Simple logic will tell people that if there is no definitive evidence, a definitive conclusion can't be made.
Speculation is not fact.
I hope they have learnt from this experience, but I doubt it.
Hyperpartisan politics corrupts people's perception and integrity.
And there was a mega-dose of butt-protecting, from the scientific community who is culpable for the deaths of 3.5 million people, and counting, assuming it did happen.
Butt in any case, the are scampering around trying to dodge the ramification.
It's not only Mr Fauci changing tune...
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The liberal media have finally conceded that COVID-19 may have originated in a Wuhan laboratory - after a year spent ridiculing the suggestion.
The first fatality from COVID-19 was reported by Chinese state media on January 11, 2020, when a 61-year-old man who was a regular customer at a market in Wuhan died. The first confirmed case in the United States was 10 days later, when a man returned to Washington state from Wuhan.
Within a week, on January 26, 2020, the first article blaming the Wuhan Institute of Virology for the outbreak was published, in The Washington Times. Yet most mainstream media disputed the claims, dismissing them outright or even decrying them as racist.
When Donald Trump, on May 1, 2020, said he had 'a high degree of confidence' that the virus escaped from a lab, the New York Times, CNN, and NPR were quick to mock his comments.
CNN, which by the end of the Trump administration was brazen in its hostility to the president and his advisors, was almost gleeful in its mockery of the idea that the virus could have come from a laboratory.
The Washington Post, New York Times, and NPR were equally dismissive of suggestions that the virus could have come from a laboratory.
The first fatality from COVID-19 was reported by Chinese state media on January 11, 2020, when a 61-year-old man who was a regular customer at a market in Wuhan died. The first confirmed case in the United States was 10 days later, when a man returned to Washington state from Wuhan.
Within a week, on January 26, 2020, the first article blaming the Wuhan Institute of Virology for the outbreak was published, in The Washington Times. Yet most mainstream media disputed the claims, dismissing them outright or even decrying them as racist.
When Donald Trump, on May 1, 2020, said he had 'a high degree of confidence' that the virus escaped from a lab, the New York Times, CNN, and NPR were quick to mock his comments.
CNN, which by the end of the Trump administration was brazen in its hostility to the president and his advisors, was almost gleeful in its mockery of the idea that the virus could have come from a laboratory.
The Washington Post, New York Times, and NPR were equally dismissive of suggestions that the virus could have come from a laboratory.
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A retired New York Times science editor has slammed the mainstream media for ignoring the possibility that coronavirus leaked from a laboratory in Wuhan and accused journalists of falling for 'Chinese propaganda' instead of doing their own research.
Nicholas Wade, who penned a 1,100-word article examining the link entitled 'The origin of COVID: Did people or nature open Pandora’s box at Wuhan?' earlier this month, took aim at top news outlets in a Fox News interview on Sunday night.
He claimed the media mainstream media failed to 'take off its political glasses' to investigate the virus' origins, the facts of which, he said, are being obscured by the Chinese Communist Party.
Wade's remarks come as more scientists and political officials are coming forward to support the theory that the virus may have been developed in a Chinese laboratory and was covered up - after scoffing at the idea for much of the past year in part because it was pushed by then-President Donald Trump.
Nicholas Wade, who penned a 1,100-word article examining the link entitled 'The origin of COVID: Did people or nature open Pandora’s box at Wuhan?' earlier this month, took aim at top news outlets in a Fox News interview on Sunday night.
He claimed the media mainstream media failed to 'take off its political glasses' to investigate the virus' origins, the facts of which, he said, are being obscured by the Chinese Communist Party.
Wade's remarks come as more scientists and political officials are coming forward to support the theory that the virus may have been developed in a Chinese laboratory and was covered up - after scoffing at the idea for much of the past year in part because it was pushed by then-President Donald Trump.
Source: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9615117/A-year-left-wing-news-TRASHED-theory-COVID-originated-Wuhan-lab-outlets-idea.html
25 May 2021, 9:08 am
^You would think that people would learn that binaries are usually bullshite.
Politically inspired rubbish and butt-covering.
But some people repeat the same nonsense time and time again.
Three cheers for a skeptical mindset! 
25 May 2021, 9:14 am
It will happen with the 2020 election fraud claims next, I look forward to the mass hysteria from that bombshell.
25 May 2021, 3:10 pm
25 May 2021, 6:05 pm
Mikah wrote:
Hyperpartisanship is an abomination and the cause of the growth of foolish political decision making.
Facts and reason be damned, as long as we feel good.
25 May 2021, 7:38 pm
25 May 2021, 9:02 pm
25 May 2021, 9:56 pm
VegetableMan wrote:
Fauci is a piece of f*****g s**t. He lied to the American people right out of the gate. He told us masks wouldn't help because they needed to preserve them for health care professionals. He should have told us the truth. He is every bit as guilty as Trump and should be indicted for crimes against the people.
Yep, that lie about masks not helping, if used correctly, was to stock up for first-line workers.
I don't resent the priority.
I resent the establishment treat us like mugs.
The same deal with Tim Flannery.
There is a very valid reason why anything the government says should be treated with skepticism.
Vive la Critical Thinking!
25 May 2021, 10:06 pm
Brictoria wrote:
As noted above - "occurring naturally" and "escaping from a lab" are not mutually exclusive, and have been the most likely source from the beginning based on actual evidence. Unfortunately, the power of "orange man bad" meant that instead of looking at evidence supporting this, most "news" organisations insisted on trying to disprove the possibility, and are only now starting to realize the evidence doesn't support this past narrative they had been presenting and is more aligned with "orange man"'s claims.
I have heard it suggested that the left poo-pooed the idea simply to discredit "The Orange Man".
If true, another example of politically inspired foolishness.
25 May 2021, 10:22 pm
Pepe wrote:
VegetableMan wrote:
Fauci is a piece of f*****g s**t. He lied to the American people right out of the gate. He told us masks wouldn't help because they needed to preserve them for health care professionals. He should have told us the truth. He is every bit as guilty as Trump and should be indicted for crimes against the people.
There is a very valid reason why anything the government says should be treated with skepticism.
Vive la Critical Thinking!
The problem is, there are too many people in the U.S. who only apply that logic when the opposing team is in power.
25 May 2021, 10:28 pm
25 May 2021, 11:04 pm
VegetableMan wrote:
One of the negative side-effects of the post-Trump era is that anyone who defied their president in the end is a hero -- regardless of their crimes.
26 May 2021, 12:00 am
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26 May 2021, 7:32 am
Mikah wrote:
It will happen with the 2020 election fraud claims next, I look forward to the mass hysteria from that bombshell.
Not stunning, usual. The media consensus switches constantly. Those here celebrating the current switch in consensus better be careful. Next month they may be all in on jailing vaccine refusenicks.
Changing the topic a bit, it is interesting that even among that even the most gung ho of “it came from a lab” people posit it was unintentional. I believe that is because the consequences of finding out China did it intentionally is to horrific to think about. The reaction to an intentional action that killed so many and ground the world economy to a halt would be all out war. That might kill more people and damage the world economy more then the pandemic. America could not defeat a small Asian nation, what would be their chances against China?
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