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16 Aug 2021, 1:15 am

I'm just finding out this news... horrible policy of Trump that Biden implemented!!

This entire war shaped the culture of my generation.. so many fought and died.. all for nothing...

I can't help but feel anger towards his administration.

I know so many people who've risk their lives in that war..

Shame on Joe Biden... what an imbecile move of him to make..

My god, where going to be at world war 3, with this new development.

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16 Aug 2021, 1:24 am

Striking deal with the Taliban, with the Iranian regime, and sympathizing with the Muslim Brotherhood
https://foreignpolicy.com/2021/07/20/bi ... itary-aid/

It seems that Biden is radical islam’s best friend.

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16 Aug 2021, 2:02 am

SandWitch wrote:

I'm just finding out this news... horrible policy of Trump that Biden implemented!!

Implemented badly.

SandWitch wrote:

This entire war shaped the culture of my generation.. so many fought and died.. all for nothing...

I can't help but feel anger towards his administration.

I know so many people who've risk their lives in that war..

Shame on Joe Biden... what an imbecile move of him to make..

My god, where going to be at world war 3, with this new development.

America has lost credibility and America's competitors are rubbing their hands with glee at her humiliation.

Let us hope that the internal social upheaval that America is experiencing continues so China's goal for world domination continues unabated. [sarcasm]

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16 Aug 2021, 4:13 am

All the men leaving and abandoning their women and kids again I see.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9897201/Terror-Kabul-airport-Troops-fire-shots-air-desperate-Afghans-climb-airbridges.html

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16 Aug 2021, 4:48 am

Nades wrote:

That is a very long article, and I stopped reading half ways down.
But what I did read gave no validity to your assertion.
Perhaps you can cut&paste?

The Oracle of Truth.

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16 Aug 2021, 5:00 am

Has the Taliban taken over America? We have not hears anything here.

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16 Aug 2021, 6:51 am

Dox47 wrote:

The similarities to the 1970s are getting positively eerie.

Being an Ok Boomer who actually remembers April 30, 1975 I could not agree more.

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16 Aug 2021, 7:01 am

Mountain Goat wrote:

Has the Taliban taken over America? We have not hears anything here.

Defeat in war does not necessarily mean your country is now under physical enemy control. It could mean by force the enemy did what they set out to do and you failed in your objective in stopping them.

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16 Aug 2021, 7:11 am

Pepe wrote:

Nades wrote:

That is a very long article, and I stopped reading half ways down.
But what I did read gave no validity to your assertion.
Perhaps you can cut&paste?

The Oracle of Truth.

The pictures in the article. The female to male ratio has always been about 50/50 since the dawn of humanity. Clearly the pictures are not a 50/50 ratio.

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16 Aug 2021, 7:48 am

Not looking good over there (C-17 is preparing to take off).

There are other videos going around showing people falling off it in the distance as it gains altitude, too.

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16 Aug 2021, 7:53 am

Quote:

As panicked Afghans watched Taliban fighters roll into the capital city of Kabul Sunday, sealing the collapse of the U.S.-backed government there, many Americans were left wondering how top Biden officials could have been so wrong in their recent proclamations that Kabul would not easily fall.

Just days ago, a U.S. military analysis reported by ABC News predicted that Kabul could fall within 90 days -- not by the weekend.

"This is a crisis of untold proportions," Rep. Jackie Speier (D-Calif.) told NBC News Sunday as Taliban militants swept into Kabul. "This is an intelligence failure. We underestimated the Taliban and overestimated the resolve of the Afghan Army."

But numerous U.S. officials tell ABC News that the opposite was true, insisting that key intelligence assessments had consistently informed policymakers that the Taliban could overwhelm the country and take the capital within weeks -- essentially repeating the 1975 fall of Saigon, when helicopters hastily evacuated diplomats from the U.S. embassy's rooftop as the North Vietnamese Army stormed into the South Vietnam capital.

The Taliban, which has long called itself the "Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan," announced they had entered Kabul soon after Afghan President Ashraf Ghani fled the country on Sunday afternoon, setting off a rush to the city's airport and a stepped-up evacuation of the U.S. embassy by a fleet of military helicopters guarded by AH-64 Apache attack helicopters orbiting the once-impenetrable Green Zone. President Joe Biden rushed to move in thousands of U.S. troops to evacuate American officials still in the capital.

"[U.S.] leaders were told by the military it would take no time at all for the Taliban to take everything," an anonymous U.S. intelligence official told ABC News. "No one listened."

Source: https://abcnews.go.com/US/afghanistans-collapse-us-intelligence-wrong/story?id=79470553

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16 Aug 2021, 8:05 am

Just like what happened in Vietnam in 1975.

Afghanistan is a landlocked country----so there won't be any "boat people" from there.

We probably shouldn't have withdrawn from Afghanistan---but, by the same token, the anti-Taliban Afghan forces shouldn't have just laid down and allow the Taliban free rein.

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16 Aug 2021, 8:28 am

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Blood on Biden’s hands.

How so? It is not as if American forces were all withdrawn at once and without warning.

The (former) Afghan government had ample warning of the eventual withdrawal and its troops had the best equipment and the best training.

So why did the Afghani men not put up a fight? Were they expecting their hired mercenaries (e.g., the American forces) to do their fighting for them forever? Or did they secretly want a return to expulsion of foreigners and the re-enslavement of their women?

What we are witnessing is what happens when a Nationalistic culture that is based on a Fundamentalist religion arms itself and insinuates itself within the general population. The Mujahadeen/Taliban are not all that removed from the Proud Boys (they share many of the same goals), and the coup in Afghanistan is not so different (albeit more successful) than the coup attempt on America's capitol last January.

Blood on Joseph Biden's hands? No. Blood on Ashraf Ghani's hands? Yes, definitely; he should have stayed at his post and bravely faced down the opposition. Instead, he ran like a scalded dog, even before the last of the Americans had left.

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16 Aug 2021, 9:01 am

I wonder... we (moderators) are observing sudden increase in activity of bots and spammers associated with Russia. I think there's some big action mounting up but I don't know what exactly. I've seen it before on a different site, during seizing of Crimea.

Maybe they're planning something in Afghanistan? After the Talibean got the country practically without resistance, Little Green People could be pretty welcome lesser evil for an average Afghan family.

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16 Aug 2021, 9:22 am

magz wrote:

It's free real estate. No nation has to tolerate a terrorist run nation on their border. China, Russia, Pakistan and Iran can and should do as they please with Afghanistan. Being annexed by any of those nations is a substantial improvement as backwards as they are.

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16 Aug 2021, 9:34 am

Afghanistan is not so "free". There's been hundreds of years of fights between empires on their tricky terrain.

To get the stack, you need support of local people. Direct annexion would trigger resistance and more support to the Talibean.
Being an alternative to the Talibean and launching a big propaganda campaign would help install another puppet government - the question is whose puppet it would be this time. I'm pretty sure Russia is in the game, trying to be faster and more efficient than Iran, China and other interested players.

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