01 Dec 2021, 4:20 pm
Pepe wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Mountain Goat wrote:
"It is global warming" they say while they lie and "Pretend" to know what they are talking about.
Meanwhile while life carries on the animal charities try to obtain more money by claiming the polar bears and penguines are freezing...
Usual stuff.
Meanwhile while life carries on the animal charities try to obtain more money by claiming the polar bears and penguines are freezing...
Usual stuff.
It's not quite as a simple as the earth being put into a microwave oven. Modelling suggests uneven changes/flux in weather resulting from a temperature rise.
Australia has been in "climate flux" since the invaders, err, invaded.
How dare we "Flux" Australia!
Australia wasn't "fluxed"before the whites came, and now it is totally fluxed.
Oh, the humanity.
<facetiousness> 
BTW, This is the land of "droughts and flooding rain", after all.
Global warming causes extremes of both cold and hot weather in regional areas of the globe. Evaporation in some parts results in increased precipitation in other areas or even a drop in temperature in others. This is not cyberdad's opinion it's scientific fact.
01 Dec 2021, 4:22 pm
01 Dec 2021, 5:01 pm
cyberdad wrote:
Pepe wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Mountain Goat wrote:
"It is global warming" they say while they lie and "Pretend" to know what they are talking about.
Meanwhile while life carries on the animal charities try to obtain more money by claiming the polar bears and penguines are freezing...
Usual stuff.
Meanwhile while life carries on the animal charities try to obtain more money by claiming the polar bears and penguines are freezing...
Usual stuff.
It's not quite as a simple as the earth being put into a microwave oven. Modelling suggests uneven changes/flux in weather resulting from a temperature rise.
Australia has been in "climate flux" since the invaders, err, invaded.
How dare we "Flux" Australia!
Australia wasn't "fluxed"before the whites came, and now it is totally fluxed.
Oh, the humanity.
<facetiousness> BTW, This is the land of "droughts and flooding rain", after all.
Global warming causes extremes of both cold and hot weather in regional areas of the globe. Evaporation in some parts results in increased precipitation in other areas or even a drop in temperature in others. This is not cyberdad's opinion it's scientific fact.
Yes, climate change is always happening.
Q: Has the earths total temperature, before industrialization, ever been this hot or hotter?
01 Dec 2021, 5:05 pm
kraftiekortie wrote:
I believe "climate change" is a natural phenomenon whose mechanisms have been accelerated by man-made agents.
I see no reason why the pestilence of humanity isn't involved in global temperature change.
I simply detest the political catastrophising BS.
01 Dec 2021, 8:21 pm
cyberdad wrote:
Global warming causes extremes of both cold and hot weather in regional areas of the globe. Evaporation in some parts results in increased precipitation in other areas or even a drop in temperature in others. This is not cyberdad's opinion it's scientific fact.
Well, why would it be called "global warming" when most parts of the world are NOT getting warmer. In which case, it's neither global nor warming. Unless George Soros got involved somehow; then, with enough of his money, "scientists" 
will say anything they're paid to say.
01 Dec 2021, 8:35 pm
Pepe wrote:
Yes, climate change is always happening.
Q: Has the earths total temperature, before industrialization, ever been this hot or hotter?
Q: Has the earths total temperature, before industrialization, ever been this hot or hotter?
Look at the trends. NASA have been collecting this temporal data for quite a while now using ice cores.
Going back to the graph, 1950 was an important milestone as it had been 10 years since the heavy global industrialisation for arms/shipping following the outbreak of WWII. After 1950 India, China and Russia became fully industrialised so the point where the CO2 line was crossed is no accident.
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01 Dec 2021, 8:52 pm
01 Dec 2021, 9:18 pm
cyberdad wrote:
Pepe wrote:
Yes, climate change is always happening.
Q: Has the earths total temperature, before industrialization, ever been this hot or hotter?
Q: Has the earths total temperature, before industrialization, ever been this hot or hotter?
Look at the trends. NASA have been collecting this temporal data for quite a while now using ice cores.
Going back to the graph, 1950 was an important milestone as it had been 10 years since the heavy global industrialisation for arms/shipping following the outbreak of WWII. After 1950 India, China and Russia became fully industrialised so the point where the CO2 line was crossed is no accident.
This is a chart of CO2.
Did you know that?
01 Dec 2021, 9:19 pm
Quote:
Long-term temperature reconstructions often rely on the width of tree rings: they assume that warmer summers make for wider rings. Using this measure, it seems that global temperatures changed very little over the past two millennia. Such studies are behind the famous “hockey stick” graph, created by Michael Mann of Pennsylvania State University in University Park, which shows stable temperatures for a millennium before the 20th century.
Jan Esper of Johannes Gutenberg University in Mainz, Germany, thinks that at least some of those tree rings actually show something else: a long-term cooling trend that lasted right up until the Industrial Revolution. The trend came about because of reduced solar heating caused by changes to the Earth’s orbit known as Milankovitch wobbles, says Esper. His results suggest the Roman world was 0.6 °C warmer than previously thought – enough to make grape vines in northern England a possibility.
Read more: https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn ... z7DqtoN681
Jan Esper of Johannes Gutenberg University in Mainz, Germany, thinks that at least some of those tree rings actually show something else: a long-term cooling trend that lasted right up until the Industrial Revolution. The trend came about because of reduced solar heating caused by changes to the Earth’s orbit known as Milankovitch wobbles, says Esper. His results suggest the Roman world was 0.6 °C warmer than previously thought – enough to make grape vines in northern England a possibility.
Read more: https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn ... z7DqtoN681
"Interesting".
01 Dec 2021, 9:23 pm
Pepe wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Pepe wrote:
Yes, climate change is always happening.
Q: Has the earths total temperature, before industrialization, ever been this hot or hotter?
Q: Has the earths total temperature, before industrialization, ever been this hot or hotter?
Look at the trends. NASA have been collecting this temporal data for quite a while now using ice cores.
Going back to the graph, 1950 was an important milestone as it had been 10 years since the heavy global industrialisation for arms/shipping following the outbreak of WWII. After 1950 India, China and Russia became fully industrialised so the point where the CO2 line was crossed is no accident.
This is a chart of CO2.
Did you know that?
Yep, the point in 1950 is also when global temperatures take off too.
https://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/gl ... mperature/
According to NASA Earth’s surface continues to significantly warm, with recent global temperatures being the hottest in the past 2,000-plus years.
01 Dec 2021, 9:32 pm
Quote:
The IPCC buries two millennia of fluctuating temperatures
Alan Moran.
The controversial part is the removal of temperature oscillations commonly thought to have occurred over the course of the past 2,000 years. These include warming that was known to have occurred in Roman times and again in the tenth century when the Vikings colonised Greenland until 1250, and the cold period 1400-1700. Such events are downgraded as being either exaggerated or localised.
Alan Moran.
The controversial part is the removal of temperature oscillations commonly thought to have occurred over the course of the past 2,000 years. These include warming that was known to have occurred in Roman times and again in the tenth century when the Vikings colonised Greenland until 1250, and the cold period 1400-1700. Such events are downgraded as being either exaggerated or localised.
https://www.spectator.com.au/2021/08/th ... peratures/
"Interesting".
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