House Panel: Trump Engaged in Criminal Conspiracy.
How accurate is this?
It's accurate. But that hardly means that the conclusion is politically motivated. Those two Republicans on the committee (Kinzinger and Cheney) were the only two members of the GOP who hadn't sold their souls to Trump and the MAGA conspiracy that had ignored all evidence against Trump in both impeachment trials.
You do realise that if the committee wanted to be seen as having total integrity, there would have been a 50/50 split of representatives from both sides of the political divide, right?
Ideally, all members would be non-partisan.
But this isn't the case, is it?

Do you know what the term "Conflict of Interest" means?

A conflict of interest occurs when an entity or individual becomes unreliable because of a clash between personal (or self-serving) interests and professional duties or responsibilities.
https://www.investopedia.com/terms/c/co ... terest.asp
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How accurate is this?
It's accurate. But that hardly means that the conclusion is politically motivated. Those two Republicans on the committee (Kinzinger and Cheney) were the only two members of the GOP who hadn't sold their souls to Trump and the MAGA conspiracy that had ignored all evidence against Trump in both impeachment trials.
You do realise that if the committee wanted to be seen as having total integrity, there would have been a 50/50 split of representatives from both sides of the political divide, right?
Ideally, all members would be non-partisan.
But this isn't the case, is it?

Do you know what the term "Conflict of Interest" means?

A conflict of interest occurs when an entity or individual becomes unreliable because of a clash between personal (or self-serving) interests and professional duties or responsibilities.
https://www.investopedia.com/terms/c/co ... terest.asp
Again, the GOP has proven itself to be compromised by Trump and Trumpism. Kevin McCarthy had wanted to put Republican reps on the committee who have since been found to have very likely taken part in the January 6 coup attempt. How can there be no conflict of interest when the right is collaborating with the subject of the investigation?
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Clinton and Biden are symptomatic of the ruling class grasping at straws to maintain control, and Trump is what happens when they start to lose it.
The rest of the world can be forgiven for not knowing how American politics works, but Americans...they're just ignorant. It'd be easy to insult them, but the problem is that there are very powerful forces that are intentionally keeping them ignorant. Americans fight over s**t the oligarchs allow them to fight over. Any real fight will be censored. The revolution will NOT be televised.
For those that don't know, and that includes most Americans, there is a mathematical implication to the first-past-the-post, winner-takes all electoral system we have. There can only be two political parties. In order for a new party to come to power, one of the existing ones has to lose power. There cannot be three. The last time there was such a change was in the 1860's, when the Republican party came to be, replacing the Whigs.
Now, the thing that Americans don't seem to recognize is that these parties are not government entities and their elections (the "primaries") are not real elections. These are private parties, and they are free to choose their candidates any way they like. In fact, as recent as 2016, the Democratic party declared, correctly, in a lawsuit they were defending, that they have no obligation to be impartial to their candidates, or to even hold elections. They can choose their candidates in smoke-filled back rooms. They are correct in this. That is why they were not charged with election law violations. The primaries are not recognized by the courts as elections, so the courts will not get involved in them as criminal cases. They are civil matters. The Democrats were only charged with violating their own charter. Fraud, basically. They took money (political contributions) with the expectation of a fair election, and failed to deliver. A civil infraction, not a criminal one, because it wasn't actually an election. No election laws were violated.
The next thing that Americans do not recognize is that both parties are both neoliberal (free market, laissez faire capitalist) and neoconservative (American exceptionalism, interventionist foreign policy). The small differences between them are things the oligarchs will allow Americans to argue over. Laissez faire capitalism, American exceptionalism, interventionist foreign policy are not to be interfered with. The entire political and media establishment will come down against anything that threatens those things.
The job of the political parties is to choose candidates that will not rock the boat. There are "sides" so that we think we have a choice, but we are free to choose only among the candidates that are acceptable to the parties. We learned in 2016 that the Republicans are more vulnerable to a populist candidate than the Democrats.
That is, Donald Trump broke the system. The media and the Democratic party prevented Bernie Sanders from becoming the Democratic candidate, but the media and the Republican party failed to prevent Donal Trump from becoming the Republican candidate.
It's unfortunate that it was a fake populist that accomplished this. On the positive side, SOMEONE did manage to accomplish this. It probably won't happen again.
The USA is a plutocracy, not a democracy. The media chooses the candidates on behalf of the six corporations that own all the media. In most years, the candidates from both parties are acceptable to the plutocrats. We have the illusion of choice in selecting one of these candidates. We are encouraged to fight about our team's candidate, to make it seem real. But to be clear, we are choosing a neoliberal, neoconservative candidate, acceptable to the plutocrats, either way.
Clinton and Biden are symptomatic of the ruling class grasping at straws to maintain control, and Trump is what happens when they start to lose it.
The rest of the world can be forgiven for not knowing how American politics works, but Americans...they're just ignorant. It'd be easy to insult them, but the problem is that there are very powerful forces that are intentionally keeping them ignorant. Americans fight over s**t the oligarchs allow them to fight over. Any real fight will be censored. The revolution will NOT be televised.
For those that don't know, and that includes most Americans, there is a mathematical implication to the first-past-the-post, winner-takes all electoral system we have. There can only be two political parties. In order for a new party to come to power, one of the existing ones has to lose power. There cannot be three. The last time there was such a change was in the 1860's, when the Republican party came to be, replacing the Whigs.
Now, the thing that Americans don't seem to recognize is that these parties are not government entities and their elections (the "primaries") are not real elections. These are private parties, and they are free to choose their candidates any way they like. In fact, as recent as 2016, the Democratic party declared, correctly, in a lawsuit they were defending, that they have no obligation to be impartial to their candidates, or to even hold elections. They can choose their candidates in smoke-filled back rooms. They are correct in this. That is why they were not charged with election law violations. The primaries are not recognized by the courts as elections, so the courts will not get involved in them as criminal cases. They are civil matters. The Democrats were only charged with violating their own charter. Fraud, basically. They took money (political contributions) with the expectation of a fair election, and failed to deliver. A civil infraction, not a criminal one, because it wasn't actually an election. No election laws were violated.
The next thing that Americans do not recognize is that both parties are both neoliberal (free market, laissez faire capitalist) and neoconservative (American exceptionalism, interventionist foreign policy). The small differences between them are things the oligarchs will allow Americans to argue over. Laissez faire capitalism, American exceptionalism, interventionist foreign policy are not to be interfered with. The entire political and media establishment will come down against anything that threatens those things.
The job of the political parties is to choose candidates that will not rock the boat. There are "sides" so that we think we have a choice, but we are free to choose only among the candidates that are acceptable to the parties. We learned in 2016 that the Republicans are more vulnerable to a populist candidate than the Democrats.
That is, Donald Trump broke the system. The media and the Democratic party prevented Bernie Sanders from becoming the Democratic candidate, but the media and the Republican party failed to prevent Donal Trump from becoming the Republican candidate.
It's unfortunate that it was a fake populist that accomplished this. On the positive side, SOMEONE did manage to accomplish this. It probably won't happen again.
The USA is a plutocracy, not a democracy. The media chooses the candidates on behalf of the six corporations that own all the media. In most years, the candidates from both parties are acceptable to the plutocrats. We have the illusion of choice in selecting one of these candidates. We are encouraged to fight about our team's candidate, to make it seem real. But to be clear, we are choosing a neoliberal, neoconservative candidate, acceptable to the plutocrats, either way.
That was an excellent analysis of our political system. Very well stated!
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How accurate is this?
It's accurate. But that hardly means that the conclusion is politically motivated. Those two Republicans on the committee (Kinzinger and Cheney) were the only two members of the GOP who hadn't sold their souls to Trump and the MAGA conspiracy that had ignored all evidence against Trump in both impeachment trials.
You do realise that if the committee wanted to be seen as having total integrity, there would have been a 50/50 split of representatives from both sides of the political divide, right?
Ideally, all members would be non-partisan.
But this isn't the case, is it?

Do you know what the term "Conflict of Interest" means?

A conflict of interest occurs when an entity or individual becomes unreliable because of a clash between personal (or self-serving) interests and professional duties or responsibilities.
https://www.investopedia.com/terms/c/co ... terest.asp
Again, the GOP has proven itself to be compromised by Trump and Trumpism. Kevin McCarthy had wanted to put Republican reps on the committee who have since been found to have very likely taken part in the January 6 coup attempt. How can there be no conflict of interest when the right is collaborating with the subject of the investigation?
My point is: Take what is said with a pinch of salt, give the conflicts of interest.
Regardless, "you may call me Meyer" if Trump goes to jail.

Clinton and Biden are symptomatic of the ruling class grasping at straws to maintain control, and Trump is what happens when they start to lose it.
It is my firm belief that Trump got in because people were fed up with the corrupt political aristocracy.
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To blame a woman whose political career is in the rubbish bin is ludicrous, to say the least. To blame a man whose own inattentiveness and inaction makes Ronald Reagan look like a cross between Albert Einstein and Theodore Roosevelt by comparison is an act of sheer desperation.
The only person wholly responsible for Donald J. Trump’s criminal activities is Donald J. Trump himself, and no one else.
Clinton and Biden are symptomatic of the ruling class grasping at straws to maintain control, and Trump is what happens when they start to lose it.
It is my firm belief that Trump got in because people were fed up with the corrupt political aristocracy.
Basically, yes. It's unfortunate that they were duped by a billionaire game show host. He may not have been political aristocracy, but he was certainly an aristocrat. They were wrong, thinking he gave a crap.
Trump was actually a Democrat most of his life. He was smart enough to recognize one thing about Americans. They consider themselves temporarily embarrassed millionaires. One brilliant idea away from becoming wealthy. They still believe in meritocracy. They admire rich people. They think they, too, can become rich. Trump knew this was more a Republican thing than a Democrat thing, though both chase this folly.
We call rich Russians oligarchs. We call rich Americans billionaires, and we admire their success. It hasn't entered the American psyche that billionaires got there by being ruthless evil thugs. It hasn't entered the American psyche that they are one brilliant idea away from making their boss rich.

There are two video clips that should be required viewing for everyone who is wrong about why Trump won. The first is a talk by Michael Moore. He basically said Trump was the molotov cocktail candidate.
Then some Trump fans took his words, the words of a staunch Democrat, warning that Trump was going to win, out of ignorant spite, and turned it into a political ad.
TRUMP’S ELECTION WILL BE THE BIGGEST “f**k YOU” IN HISTORY - Michael Moore
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which is worse- incompetent, or evil?
What's worse is that hasn't been all there is for Americans to choose from.
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