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04 Apr 2022, 12:49 am

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The fact that they even had to do a study about this is proof that humanity is doomed.


Who doesn't know this?
One of the reasons I didn't want to bring life into this god awful place. 8)



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04 Apr 2022, 12:50 am

Pepe wrote:
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Pepe wrote:
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My former unvaccinated sister-in-law and her husband caught Covid and went with ivermectin.
She developed Epstein-Barr shortly after and had a stroke.Now it looks like she has long Covid , but they still think ivermectin cured them.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8233978/


The ivermectin issue hasn't been resolved.
There are papers/research from reputable sources that are for and against the product.
Keep in mind, that politics insinuates itself in virtually all aspects of life. 8)


I've noticed how the right, with anti-scientific bias, has inserted itself into the pro-ivermectin, anti-vaccine stance.


It takes all kinds.
You get clowns on either side of the political divide. :clown:

But I think you missed the part where I said there are some "reputable* sources. ;)


Even tinfoil hat wearing loons, and con men will call themselves reputable, though.


I use critical thinking skills and results to determine who is "Credible". 8)


Maybe so. But clever confidence men can skewer results into their favor in order to fool the smartest of us.


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04 Apr 2022, 12:53 am

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Who funded the study? Pfizer or Moderna ?


There has been speculation that because Ivermectin is dirt cheap in comparison to other "cures"/treatments/preventions, it is ridiculed because there isn't enough profit in it.
Would I be surprised if this was actually the case?
Could big business be that callous?
What do you think? ;)



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04 Apr 2022, 1:01 am

Pepe wrote:
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Who funded the study? Pfizer or Moderna ?


There has been speculation that because Ivermectin is dirt cheap in comparison to other "cures"/treatments/preventions, it is ridiculed because there isn't enough profit in it.
Would I be surprised if this was actually the case?
Could big business be that callous?
What do you think? ;)


The vaccine is actually free.


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04 Apr 2022, 7:23 am

Pepe wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
My former unvaccinated sister-in-law and her husband caught Covid and went with ivermectin.
She developed Epstein-Barr shortly after and had a stroke.Now it looks like she has long Covid , but they still think ivermectin cured them.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8233978/


The ivermectin issue hasn't been resolved.
There are papers/research from reputable sources that are for and against the product.
Keep in mind, that politics insinuates itself in virtually all aspects of life. 8)



Thank you Pepe for finding the link to that study and posting it here. the OP link simply took me to the reply comment box. Always great insights from you.


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04 Apr 2022, 8:05 am

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Maybe so. But clever confidence men can skewer results into their favor in order to fool the smartest of us.


Anyone who can fool me for literally years deserves to be applauded. 8)



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04 Apr 2022, 8:07 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
Pepe wrote:
Matrix Glitch wrote:
Who funded the study? Pfizer or Moderna ?


There has been speculation that because Ivermectin is dirt cheap in comparison to other "cures"/treatments/preventions, it is ridiculed because there isn't enough profit in it.
Would I be surprised if this was actually the case?
Could big business be that callous?
What do you think? ;)


The vaccine is actually free.


No, it isn't. Not here in Australia.
It is the *Taxpayer* who pays.
I pay taxes, btw. 8)



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04 Apr 2022, 8:20 am

Just because it allegedly "cures" COVID-----doesn't mean we shouldn't prevent COVID from happening in the first place....or allow mitigation to occur with COVID cases that do occur.

To use Ivermectin in lieu of a vaccine is ridiculous. Even if it "works" on COVID in a few cases.



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04 Apr 2022, 1:23 pm

Pepe wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Pepe wrote:
Matrix Glitch wrote:
Who funded the study? Pfizer or Moderna ?


There has been speculation that because Ivermectin is dirt cheap in comparison to other "cures"/treatments/preventions, it is ridiculed because there isn't enough profit in it.
Would I be surprised if this was actually the case?
Could big business be that callous?
What do you think? ;)


The vaccine is actually free.


No, it isn't. Not here in Australia.
It is the *Taxpayer* who pays.
I pay taxes, btw. 8)


But is any single tax payer seriously going to notice it?


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04 Apr 2022, 1:48 pm

Death also resolves some cases of COVID.


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04 Apr 2022, 6:43 pm

Duh :roll:


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04 Apr 2022, 8:22 pm

Pepe wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
My former unvaccinated sister-in-law and her husband caught Covid and went with ivermectin.
She developed Epstein-Barr shortly after and had a stroke.Now it looks like she has long Covid , but they still think ivermectin cured them.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8233978/


The ivermectin issue hasn't been resolved.
There are papers/research from reputable sources that are for and against the product.
Keep in mind, that politics insinuates itself in virtually all aspects of life. 8)


The reputable scientists I know through my personal social circles consider it resolved. I realize that scientific opinions can and do "evolve," but forgoing accepted science for smoke and mirrors, in the hopes the smoke and mirrors is good science that hasn't had time to prove itself, rarely plays out well.


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04 Apr 2022, 8:33 pm

In defense of vaccines overall, I will share an anecdote, which I know isn't science, but it IS one more piece of information that, for me, provides credibility to the mainstream COVID-19 recommendations.

My son, who had neglected to get his booster as recommended, got COVID-19 a few weeks ago. He had traveled back home with his girlfriend (boosted) so she could celebrate her birthday with her family. He tested negative for COVID-19 on Saturday, and proceeded to engage in indoor, unmasked visits over the weekend with about a dozen people, all boosted. Him and his girlfriend stayed at our house Sunday night, and I (also boosted) had a reasonable amount of face to face contact with him that evening.

Monday morning he didn't feel well, isolated in his old room, and tested. He tested positive.

His girlfriend tested positive a week later (unclear if that was a prolonged incubation or she caught it elsewhere), but not a single one of his other boosted contacts ever tested positive. We had him isolated in our house for ten days and never caught it.

I say the booster works. The recommendations here in the US that exist are based in science, not politics.


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05 Apr 2022, 5:36 am

Pepe wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
The vaccine is actually free.


No, it isn't. Not here in Australia.
It is the *Taxpayer* who pays.
I pay taxes, btw. 8)
So, how much have you been charged for it so far? :chin:


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05 Apr 2022, 7:09 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
Pepe wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Pepe wrote:
Matrix Glitch wrote:
Who funded the study? Pfizer or Moderna?


There has been speculation that because Ivermectin is dirt cheap in comparison to other "cures"/treatments/preventions, it is ridiculed because there isn't enough profit in it.
Would I be surprised if this was actually the case?
Could big business be that callous?
What do you think? ;)


The vaccine is actually free.


No, it isn't. Not here in Australia.
It is the *Taxpayer* who pays.
I pay taxes, btw. 8)


But is any single tax payer seriously going to notice it?


The point is Pfizer and Moderna aka Big Pharma are making big bucks off their vaccines. It stands to reason they would want to discredit alternatives.



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05 Apr 2022, 5:22 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
Pepe wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Pepe wrote:
Matrix Glitch wrote:
Who funded the study? Pfizer or Moderna ?


There has been speculation that because Ivermectin is dirt cheap in comparison to other "cures"/treatments/preventions, it is ridiculed because there isn't enough profit in it.
Would I be surprised if this was actually the case?
Could big business be that callous?
What do you think? ;)


The vaccine is actually free.


No, it isn't. Not here in Australia.
It is the *Taxpayer* who pays.
I pay taxes, btw. 8)


But is any single tax payer seriously going to notice it?


A non-sequitur, my good friend. ;)