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03 Apr 2022, 2:38 pm

This is one of the foundations of the "kidnapping" theory. Another part is that Shanghai is more pro-Western (they have always treated foreigners better than other regions).
But not long ago, the epidemic in Shenzhen was equally serious. They did a really good job cutting off the transmission route quickly and there was no patient spillover. Shanghai has local industries, and Shenzhen is more dependent on foreign trade than Shanghai.

I would like to "coexist", but I would wonder if now is the right time.
I don't trust the Shanghai government. Much of their performance in this incident can only be described as evil and incompetence.


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04 Apr 2022, 3:32 am

Would it in your opinion be true:

Shanghai government, compared to the central government of China, is more liberal but also more corrupted?


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04 Apr 2022, 4:16 am

I'm not very sure about the definition of the concept.
The Shanghai government gives enterprises more autonomy in peacetime. But in this incident, instead of giving the people "freedom", they were more oppressive.

In Chinese, "corruption" must involve the exchange of money.
I'm not sure if the Shanghai government has some illegal money transactions. But they acted in this incident "doing anything to the people in order to keep their positions".
Shanghai's failure to restrict population movement in accordance with the policy is due to the fact that they adopted different statistical standards - they identified the vast majority of patients as "asymptomatic infections". So on paper, their number of positive patients is not enough for Shanghai to restrict population movement.
And, the cliché: people can die without dialysis, they can die of starvation, but they can't die from Covid-19. Because of the death of the new crown virus will affect the official performance of officials.
This phenomenon is widely seen in China's excessive epidemic prevention. But Shanghai brings together every phenomenon.

So another theory is: they are not trying to "coexist". They are just cowardly and inept.


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04 Apr 2022, 4:22 am

SkinnedWolf wrote:
And, the cliché: people can die without dialysis, they can die of starvation, but they can't die from Covid-19. Because of the death of the new crown virus will affect the official performance of officials.
This phenomenon is widely seen in China's excessive epidemic prevention. But Shanghai brings together every phenomenon.
Ugh, the "it has to look good on paper" philosophy.
And Shanghai trying to look good on paper, whatever the reality is?
Being the largest seaport in the world, I'm not surprised they want to avoid lockdowns - but creating a parallel reality in documents is not a good approach to epidemies.


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04 Apr 2022, 5:06 am

Many times I believe that the decisions of the Chinese central government are not bad.
Some policies will sacrifice a small number of people, but generally benefit everyone - if someone happens to be not sacrificed, he will be grateful to the government. That's why they still have many followers.

But local governments have their own interests, as well as less wise aides.
This often creates greater evil than the central government expects.


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04 Apr 2022, 5:21 am

I think some of the "our leader is our father" philosophy is speaking through you ;)
That's normal. Culture is part of who we are.


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04 Apr 2022, 5:44 am

I know.
I can't get rid of it completely. It is impossible for a person to develop thoughts that are completely irrelevant to context.
On the other hand, I don't want to be ashamed that my culture and identity are not Western enough - some Chinese do, and I don't agree with them.


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