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22 Apr 2022, 2:21 am

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All of these heads of Slavic countries...ancient and modern...good, evil, and in between. Theyre always named Vlad, Vladimir, or Volodymyr. :?


Vlad's country of Walachia is now part of Romania, which speaks a language closer to Italian.


Forgot that. Romanian is a Romance language, surrounded by Slavic speakers. Not itself Slavic. "Esta Susanna en casa? Si en la Cocina." was the first two sentences in the first conversation excercise in my eighth grade Spanish textbook that I was studying in the school cafeteria. A schoolmate who was a state dept brat who had lived in Romania said the sentences were exactly the same in Romanian (is Susan in the house? Yes in the kitchen.).



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22 Apr 2022, 4:23 am

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All of these heads of Slavic countries...ancient and modern...good, evil, and in between. Theyre always named Vlad, Vladimir, or Volodymyr. :?


Vlad's country of Walachia is now part of Romania, which speaks a language closer to Italian.


Forgot that. Romanian is a Romance language, surrounded by Slavic speakers. Not itself Slavic. "Esta Susanna en casa? Si en la Cocina." was the first two sentences in the first conversation excercise in my eighth grade Spanish textbook that I was studying in the school cafeteria. A schoolmate who was a state dept brat who had lived in Romania said the sentences were exactly the same in Romanian (is Susan in the house? Yes in the kitchen.).


Interesting.


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22 Apr 2022, 10:36 am

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All of these heads of Slavic countries...ancient and modern...good, evil, and in between. Theyre always named Vlad, Vladimir, or Volodymyr. :?


Vlad's country of Walachia is now part of Romania, which speaks a language closer to Italian.


It's not really blood. It's ragù.



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22 Apr 2022, 3:15 pm

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All of these heads of Slavic countries...ancient and modern...good, evil, and in between. Theyre always named Vlad, Vladimir, or Volodymyr. :?


Vlad's country of Walachia is now part of Romania, which speaks a language closer to Italian.


It's not really blood. It's ragù.


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28 Apr 2022, 6:47 pm

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Vlad Tepes was his name. He's still highly regarded in Romania for defending his country, despite his brutal methods.

Hell no, not by me.
He's like well known for being in history, popular, but not liked I would think.
He's part of historical interesting things, i think his face was on some old coins, 20 lei back in the day, if im not mistaken.
Then we kinda have Romania's history we learn, and its part of thesis like all others "domnitori" or leaders, before modern politics and presidents were involved. They used to fight on horses.

It's very interesting to me, to this day, the impact of his cruelty and stories have made my country popular from the point of view of legends and helps with tourism as a main attraction point.


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28 Apr 2022, 6:56 pm

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All of these heads of Slavic countries...ancient and modern...good, evil, and in between. Theyre always named Vlad, Vladimir, or Volodymyr. :?


Vlad's country of Walachia is now part of Romania, which speaks a language closer to Italian.


Forgot that. Romanian is a Romance language, surrounded by Slavic speakers. Not itself Slavic. "Esta Susanna en casa? Si en la Cocina." was the first two sentences in the first conversation excercise in my eighth grade Spanish textbook that I was studying in the school cafeteria. A schoolmate who was a state dept brat who had lived in Romania said the sentences were exactly the same in Romanian (is Susan in the house? Yes in the kitchen.).

Romanian is Latin-provenient like Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, French.

I would say the accent of spanish is not closer than the one of Italian. Spanish is too accented.

Este Suzana acasa? Da, in bucatarie.

Da is Russian, too. We share some accents in villages especially, with Russians and Ukrainians.

Cocina in Romanian means pig den. xD

In, means in. Pronounced Uhn, because it has some ^ above the I.


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28 Apr 2022, 7:10 pm

Actually I have been looking at language videos in the last few days since I posted that and have noticed that my junior high school buddy apparently wasnt quite right.

Though Rumanian is Romance it borrows "yes" from the surrounding Slavic languages. You all say "da" (exactly the same as Russian) rather than "si" (how both Spaniards and Italians say "yes").

Kitchen is pronounced "koh-seena" in Spanish. Something like that in italian. But the Spanish word for "pig" is "ko-CHEE-na". So your word for "the place they keep pigs" is related to that Spanish word. But your word for kitchen has a different origin than the Italian, Spanish, and even English, words, which all derive from the ancient Roman word for "the place they keep the cooking pots". The English word Kitchen is a rare survival of the Roman occupation of Britain, and is related to the Spanish Cosina.

Interestingly the English word for the place they keep pigs is a "sty". The person whose job is to look after it is "the sty ward". That phrase became the word "steward", and became an upwardly mobile word, a proper name, and even the name of a British royal family (Stuart). But its still an insult if someone says "your place looks like a pig sty!". But I digress.



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28 Apr 2022, 7:34 pm

Is your profile joking, or do you actually live in the Transylvania region of Romania (since were talking about vampires)?



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28 Apr 2022, 7:59 pm

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Is your profile joking, or do you actually live in the Transylvania region of Romania (since were talking about vampires)?


While Bram Stoker had made Transylvania Dracula's home, Vlad Tepes lived and ruled next door in Walachia.


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29 Apr 2022, 2:47 am

I meant that the region is associated with spooky stuff in general. Even Frankenstein gets placed there (by Hollywood, and not by Mary Shelly).

But I hear that all of southeastern Europe is a nice place to travel to, and around. So...someday I hope to ride THIS train:





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01 May 2022, 3:20 am

Rexi wrote:
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Vlad Tepes was his name. He's still highly regarded in Romania for defending his country, despite his brutal methods.

Hell no, not by me.
He's like well known for being in history, popular, but not liked I would think.
He's part of historical interesting things, i think his face was on some old coins, 20 lei back in the day, if im not mistaken.
Then we kinda have Romania's history we learn, and its part of thesis like all others "domnitori" or leaders, before modern politics and presidents were involved. They used to fight on horses.

It's very interesting to me, to this day, the impact of his cruelty and stories have made my country popular from the point of view of legends and helps with tourism as a main attraction point.

Hi Rexi,I am an American of partial Romanian/Transylvanian ancestry.I heard that a lot of the vampire legends in your part of the world influenced by lack of scientific understanding of disease and decay and stuff like that.I heard that even today some people in the Carpathian Mountains believe the blood-drinking undead are a real non fictional thing.Is that true Rexi.I have always loved vampires but thats mainly because I find the vampiresss to be the epitome of sexy.In Rhode Island in the 18990's there was a vampire panic caused by TB.Several diseases and conditions are thought to be contributors to the whole vampire myth.Like Rabies.Well At least yall have turned his legacy into a way to make a living.I have also heard that many Romanians dont like the whole Hollywood Image of yalls national hero.I heard he is basically yalls George Washington.Rexi,



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01 May 2022, 4:37 am

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Actually I have been looking at language videos in the last few days since I posted that and have noticed that my junior high school buddy apparently wasnt quite right.

Though Rumanian is Romance it borrows "yes" from the surrounding Slavic languages. You all say "da" (exactly the same as Russian) rather than "si" (how both Spaniards and Italians say "yes").

Kitchen is pronounced "koh-seena" in Spanish. Something like that in italian. But the Spanish word for "pig" is "ko-CHEE-na". So your word for "the place they keep pigs" is related to that Spanish word. But your word for kitchen has a different origin than the Italian, Spanish, and even English, words, which all derive from the ancient Roman word for "the place they keep the cooking pots". The English word Kitchen is a rare survival of the Roman occupation of Britain, and is related to the Spanish Cosina.

Interestingly the English word for the place they keep pigs is a "sty". The person whose job is to look after it is "the sty ward". That phrase became the word "steward", and became an upwardly mobile word, a proper name, and even the name of a British royal family (Stuart). But its still an insult if someone says "your place looks like a pig sty!". But I digress.


I quite enjoy your digressions. :D
But apologies to the OP for further taking this off track.


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10 May 2022, 7:43 am

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Is your profile joking, or do you actually live in the Transylvania region of Romania (since were talking about vampires)?

I don't joke about the accuracy of my profile details. I'm from Romania indeed.


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10 May 2022, 8:21 am

Rexi wrote:
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Is your profile joking, or do you actually live in the Transylvania region of Romania (since were talking about vampires)?

I don't joke about the accuracy of my profile details. I'm from Romania indeed.


Someone who lives in Transylvania joining this thread is quite unexpected and delightful. Most Westerners have only experienced your region by way of colorful fiction.



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10 May 2022, 5:31 pm

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Is your profile joking, or do you actually live in the Transylvania region of Romania (since were talking about vampires)?

I don't joke about the accuracy of my profile details. I'm from Romania indeed.


Someone who lives in Transylvania joining this thread is quite unexpected and delightful. Most Westerners have only experienced your region by way of colorful fiction.


Exactly!

I was asking because I think that its cool that you're actually from the place.

And many Americans, including at least one WP member (until I posted a map of Balkan Europe for him) think that Transylvania is a fictional place. Its very real. In fact its been fought over, and changed hands back and forth, between Hungary, and Rumania for centuries.



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10 May 2022, 5:56 pm

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Is your profile joking, or do you actually live in the Transylvania region of Romania (since were talking about vampires)?

I don't joke about the accuracy of my profile details. I'm from Romania indeed.


Someone who lives in Transylvania joining this thread is quite unexpected and delightful. Most Westerners have only experienced your region by way of colorful fiction.


Exactly!

I was asking because I think that its cool that you're actually from the place.

And many Americans, including at least one WP member (until I posted a map of Balkan Europe for him) think that Transylvania is a fictional place. Its very real. In fact its been fought over, and changed hands back and forth, between Hungary, and Rumania for centuries.


Transylvania means: the Land Beyond the Forest.


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