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10 Jun 2022, 3:59 am

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Of course they thought the man was just messing around with them at first, crying wolf. He was screwing around and it cost him his life. Not their fault. Plus if one of them had jumped in to try rescuing him, then there would have been two drownings.

Why would the cop drown? He's supposed to be a trained professional. Then again, so were the "heroes" at Uvalde shooting.

Read some of the comments to the Youtube video.

"As a lifeguard for 5 years I can agree with a lot of these comments. Saving someone who is panicking and you want to save them without the proper training, equipment, and next to a DAM of all things it is just a death sentence. It is always a tragedy when things like this happen."

"As a lifeguard since 2007, when you hear "2 people drown", it is always like the second one was trying to save first one. Drowning man will pull your head underwater just to take a breath."

"I’m a retired scuba instructor. Do you have any idea of the specialized training required to rescue a person who is drowning? Not only are the rescue techniques highly specialized, the rescuer needs to be in exceptional condition. Also, the subject here is a very large man, the adrenaline released while he is in trouble would make him impossibly strong and hard to manage/control."

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10 Jun 2022, 4:07 am

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The police motto is "to serve and protect." That includes risking their lives by rescuing a citizen from drowning, or running into a school where some maniac is murdering children and teachers.

Meaning defund the police or what?

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10 Jun 2022, 4:40 am

This wasn't a flash flood involving a fast flowing river, It was a lake. I am fairly sure all cops are trained in rescue and this is part of their MO to rescue people in distress. Instead, the cops didn't even flinch and just watched the guy drown and were laughing.

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10 Jun 2022, 4:44 am

So what are you guys wanting to say? Cops are lazy evil nazi bastards who need to be eliminated?

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10 Jun 2022, 4:48 am

Matrix Glitch wrote:

So what are you guys wanting to say? Cops are lazy evil nazi bastards who need to be eliminated?

No they need to protect and serve. Not let people get injured, hospitalised or die or other miscellaneous reckless stuff.

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10 Jun 2022, 5:00 am

cyberdad wrote:

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So what are you guys wanting to say? Cops are lazy evil nazi bastards who need to be eliminated?

No they need to protect and serve. Not let people get injured, hospitalised or die or other miscellaneous reckless stuff.

So then it's just a matter of repeating that over and over again.

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10 Jun 2022, 5:48 am

Matrix Glitch wrote:

cyberdad wrote:

Matrix Glitch wrote:

So what are you guys wanting to say? Cops are lazy evil nazi bastards who need to be eliminated?

No they need to protect and serve. Not let people get injured, hospitalised or die or other miscellaneous reckless stuff.

So then it's just a matter of repeating that over and over again.

Accountability would be a start

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10 Jun 2022, 5:50 am

I'm surprised this topic is still going. There are incidents that are worthy of outrage, this isn't one of them.

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10 Jun 2022, 5:52 am

Some folks can't get enough virtue signaling.

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10 Jun 2022, 6:56 am

Not sure why saying cops need to be accountable for their actions is virtue signalling?

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10 Jun 2022, 9:09 am

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You are just too much.

My education is in healthcare, I too am trained to rescue people in distress. If I see someone out in public, I'm protected by the good samaritan act should I help them. But, I'm not jumping in a lake. Why in the hell would someone jump in a lake just because the cops are there, thinking the cop will jump in and save him simply because he's trained in rescue? This isn't a kid who doesn't understand the gravity of his actions, or was holding his own and midway got tired. This is a grown man, who knew he couldn't swim, that jumped straight in and immediately drowned. NO

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10 Jun 2022, 9:13 am

Just imagine if he had been hispanic or black.

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10 Jun 2022, 8:50 pm

You are all missing the point. The man was probably mentally ill, He was not in full control of his faculties. I suspect all those cops knew. The fact they chose not to dive in to save him says more about their bias because he was homeless and therefore worthless (in their eyes) rather than some type of measured evaluation about the safety of the situation.

Please stop defending these people. They didn't even try.

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10 Jun 2022, 8:58 pm

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Just imagine if he had been hispanic or black.

There are plenty of black and hispanic cops who imitate/internalise the general bias most cops carry about vulnerable groups (2 of the 3 cops who watched George Floyd get murdered were Asian). I know it's fiction but if you watch the move "Training day", a black cop (Denzel Washington) initiates a new cop (Ethan Hawke) into "how things are done", It's quite a plausible scenario and it's based on real scenarios (hundreds) where there is culture of corruption that when revealed to the light of day is like kicking over a hornets nest where the whole precinct is corrupted by the culture inherited from the old days when cops basically ran their precinct like a mafiosa.

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10 Jun 2022, 9:00 pm

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If you had been there, what would you have done?

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