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20 Jun 2022, 3:35 am

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Having spent 12 years in a private catholic college with deplorable attitudes toward LGBTQI+, toward other religions, lower socioeconomic groups, female students, other cultures (insert minority) this hardly surprises me.

If religious schools want to pull stunts like this then answer is easy. Pull every single government dollar, taxpayer funded subsidies and see how long they last charging their pupils $50,000 to cover tuition costs without government funding.


So religious schools shouldn't be allowed to adhere to their religious principles?


It's a stunt. Nothing to do with religion. In any case civil law and protection of minorities overrides religious law in most western countries. They want to attack vulnerable people then they will face the consequences.



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20 Jun 2022, 3:41 am

naturalplastic wrote:
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cyberdad wrote:
Having spent 12 years in a private catholic college with deplorable attitudes toward LGBTQI+, toward other religions, lower socioeconomic groups, female students, other cultures (insert minority) this hardly surprises me.

If religious schools want to pull stunts like this then answer is easy. Pull every single government dollar, taxpayer funded subsidies and see how long they last charging their pupils $50,000 to cover tuition costs without government funding.


So religious schools shouldn't be allowed to adhere to their religious principles?

So...preaching hatred toward minorities, women, etc, are all examples of ... Catholic 'religious principles'?


That's a strawman.



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20 Jun 2022, 3:53 am

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naturalplastic wrote:
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cyberdad wrote:
Having spent 12 years in a private catholic college with deplorable attitudes toward LGBTQI+, toward other religions, lower socioeconomic groups, female students, other cultures (insert minority) this hardly surprises me.

If religious schools want to pull stunts like this then answer is easy. Pull every single government dollar, taxpayer funded subsidies and see how long they last charging their pupils $50,000 to cover tuition costs without government funding.


So religious schools shouldn't be allowed to adhere to their religious principles?

So...preaching hatred toward minorities, women, etc, are all examples of ... Catholic 'religious principles'?


That's a strawman.


I recall a catholic hymn where jesus explicitly said - whatever you do to the least of my brothers - that you do unto me...doesn't really bode well for this school if there was a second coming,



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20 Jun 2022, 3:58 am

cyberdad wrote:
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Having spent 12 years in a private catholic college with deplorable attitudes toward LGBTQI+, toward other religions, lower socioeconomic groups, female students, other cultures (insert minority) this hardly surprises me.

If religious schools want to pull stunts like this then answer is easy. Pull every single government dollar, taxpayer funded subsidies and see how long they last charging their pupils $50,000 to cover tuition costs without government funding.


So religious schools shouldn't be allowed to adhere to their religious principles?


It's a stunt. Nothing to do with religion. In any case civil law and protection of minorities overrides religious law in most western countries. They want to attack vulnerable people then they will face the consequences.


That also is a strawman. They have the right to decide what flags, emblems, symbols and slogans they want representing them, the same as any other institution. What you're pushing for is LGBTQ and BLM flags to become mandatory.



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20 Jun 2022, 3:59 am

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What you're pushing for is LGBTQ and BLM flags to become mandatory.
That's a strawman.


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20 Jun 2022, 4:02 am

cyberdad wrote:
Matrix Glitch wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
Matrix Glitch wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Having spent 12 years in a private catholic college with deplorable attitudes toward LGBTQI+, toward other religions, lower socioeconomic groups, female students, other cultures (insert minority) this hardly surprises me.

If religious schools want to pull stunts like this then answer is easy. Pull every single government dollar, taxpayer funded subsidies and see how long they last charging their pupils $50,000 to cover tuition costs without government funding.


So religious schools shouldn't be allowed to adhere to their religious principles?

So...preaching hatred toward minorities, women, etc, are all examples of ... Catholic 'religious principles'?


That's a strawman.


I recall a catholic hymn where jesus explicitly said - whatever you do to the least of my brothers - that you do unto me...doesn't really bode well for this school if there was a second coming,


Matthew 25:31-46 doesn’t have anything to do with flags. And the Catholic church doesn't "preach hatred toward minorities, women". Everything they teach is written down in creeds and catechisms. So you should have no trouble quoting the church to back up your accusation.



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20 Jun 2022, 4:02 am

Matrix Glitch wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Matrix Glitch wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Having spent 12 years in a private catholic college with deplorable attitudes toward LGBTQI+, toward other religions, lower socioeconomic groups, female students, other cultures (insert minority) this hardly surprises me.

If religious schools want to pull stunts like this then answer is easy. Pull every single government dollar, taxpayer funded subsidies and see how long they last charging their pupils $50,000 to cover tuition costs without government funding.


So religious schools shouldn't be allowed to adhere to their religious principles?


It's a stunt. Nothing to do with religion. In any case civil law and protection of minorities overrides religious law in most western countries. They want to attack vulnerable people then they will face the consequences.


That also is a strawman. They have the right to decide what flags, emblems, symbols and slogans they want representing them, the same as any other institution. What you're pushing for is LGBTQ and BLM flags to become mandatory.


Most of the pupils in catholic schools are white. Many are conservative. my guess is the diocese are scared these harmless flags will anger/trigger the MAGA parents in their schools.



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20 Jun 2022, 4:05 am

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Matthew 25:31-46 doesn’t have anything to do with flags.
I can't recall anything about flags in the Gospels nor anywhere in the Bible in fitting contexts, either way. Can you?
"Thou shall not displayeth Rainbow Flag"? I don't recall.


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20 Jun 2022, 4:06 am

Strangely never heard a peep from any catholic diocese when their students were openly racist and political wearing MAGA hats

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20 Jun 2022, 4:08 am

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Matthew 25:31-46 doesn’t have anything to do with flags.
I can't recall anything about flags in the Gospels nor anywhere in the Bible in fitting contexts, either way. Can you?
"Thou shall not displayeth Rainbow Flag"? I don't recall.


I think Glitch is referring to the Catholic MAGA version not the NIV version of the bible



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20 Jun 2022, 4:10 am

magz wrote:
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Matthew 25:31-46 doesn’t have anything to do with flags.
I can't recall anything about flags in the Gospels, either way. Can you?
"Thou shall not displayeth Rainbow Flag"? I don't recall.


It's not Catholic. Neither is the Jolly Roger flag. What flags do you think the diocese allows?



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20 Jun 2022, 4:14 am

cyberdad wrote:
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Matthew 25:31-46 doesn’t have anything to do with flags.
I can't recall anything about flags in the Gospels nor anywhere in the Bible in fitting contexts, either way. Can you?
"Thou shall not displayeth Rainbow Flag"? I don't recall.


I think Glitch is referring to the Catholic MAGA version not the NIV version of the bible


That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. You're making up silly nonsense at this point.



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20 Jun 2022, 4:15 am

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It's not Catholic. Neither is the Jolly Roger flag. What flags do you think the diocese allows?
Why would a diocese regulate flags and banners displayed in its community?


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20 Jun 2022, 4:19 am

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Strangely never heard a peep from any catholic diocese when their students were openly racist and political wearing MAGA hats

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They don't allow them in school. The diocese won't allow their schools to fly flags used by MAGA and Q-Anon either.



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20 Jun 2022, 4:22 am

magz wrote:
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It's not Catholic. Neither is the Jolly Roger flag. What flags do you think the diocese allows?
Why would a diocese regulate flags and banners displayed in its community?


For the same reason any institution regulates those things.



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20 Jun 2022, 4:23 am

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That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. You're making up silly nonsense at this point.


On a serious note, the diocese is using their own interoperation of scripture in opposing gay rights which is what everyone knows is the reason why they say the LGBTQI flag doesn't reflect catholic values.

BLM doesn't reflect catholic values because (as I pointed out) a lot their members are racist republicans.

See Glitch, it's not rocket science.