Nick Sandmann Loses Defamation Lawsuits Against CBS, others

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28 Jul 2022, 7:16 pm

Yeah, it was the definitely the hat plus the fact that they were there for a pro life march. Combine those two "triggering" :roll: factors with the first video that was released and they built a narrative around it and ran with it. The second video is released which topples the first but they were too entrenched in their already established narrative. It is what it is.
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29 Jul 2022, 2:07 am

Raptor wrote:
Yeah, it was the definitely the hat plus the fact that they were there for a pro life march. Combine those two "triggering" :roll: factors with the first video that was released and they built a narrative around it and ran with it. The second video is released which topples the first but they were too entrenched in their already established narrative. It is what it is.
Change my mind.


Gotta hurt huh! no more free money for the little freeloader



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29 Jul 2022, 2:18 am

very courageous man calls a teen a free-loader,
stunning and brave indeed

as some peoples think that who screams loudest wins



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29 Jul 2022, 3:16 am

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very courageous man calls a teen a free-loader,
stunning and brave indeed

as some peoples think that who screams loudest wins


Whether or not it takes courage, is he wrong? Or are you just being insulting because you can't dispute his position? :?


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29 Jul 2022, 3:24 am

traven wrote:
very courageous man calls a teen a free-loader,
stunning and brave indeed

as some peoples think that who screams loudest wins


nothing brave about stating the obvious



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29 Jul 2022, 8:14 am

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Raptor wrote:
Yeah, it was the definitely the hat plus the fact that they were there for a pro life march. Combine those two "triggering" :roll: factors with the first video that was released and they built a narrative around it and ran with it. The second video is released which topples the first but they were too entrenched in their already established narrative. It is what it is.
Change my mind.


Gotta hurt huh! no more free money for the little freeloader


If you had it your way he’d be in federal prison. :roll: :?:


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29 Jul 2022, 8:17 am

It is easy to trigger some people; all one has to do is state the obvious.  But then those same people will attack the person(s) who stated the obvious, and likely because they either cannot refute the obvious, or they simply do not like seeing the obvious being stated.

"Pathetic hat." -- obvious

"Philips at fault." -- obvious

"Bad behavior is Trump's brand." -- obvious

"No more free money for the little freeloader." -- obvious

"Children shouldn’t get rewarded for bad behavior." -- obvious

"He is now a 20-year-old very willing to be a victim." -- obvious

"He and his buddies were racially vilifying an old Indian man." -- obvious



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29 Jul 2022, 9:42 am

Is this the kid who committed the egregious offense of standing still? One of the greatest examples of much ado about nothing.



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29 Jul 2022, 10:27 am

It’s not about standing,it’s the the rude smirk and attitude.
I was raised better, you don’t disrespect the elderly.If either of my children behaved that way towards an elder ,then they would have been grounded for weeks.Certainly not praised.No phone, no friends, extra chores.


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29 Jul 2022, 8:03 pm

Matrix Glitch wrote:
Is this the kid who committed the egregious offense of standing still? One of the greatest examples of much ado about nothing.


Looks like in this Rorscach's test you see a butterfly whereas the rest of us see a bat



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29 Jul 2022, 8:04 pm

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It’s not about standing,it’s the the rude smirk and attitude.
I was raised better, you don’t disrespect the elderly.If either of my children behaved that way towards an elder ,then they would have been grounded for weeks.Certainly not praised.No phone, no friends, extra chores.


^^^ exactly...at the very minimum the Washington Post shouldn't have given this kid "hush up" money as it will teach him that he can twist the truth about his innapropriate behaviour and he'll be rewarded



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29 Jul 2022, 8:06 pm

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"Philips at fault." -- obvious


Not sure how he was actually at fault, Only thing that might have been irritating was him banging his drum which is what triggered the kids to use racial abuse toward him.



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29 Jul 2022, 8:14 pm

cyberdad wrote:
Matrix Glitch wrote:
Is this the kid who committed the egregious offense of standing still? One of the greatest examples of much ado about nothing.


Looks like in this Rorscach's test you see a butterfly whereas the rest of us see a bat


I see much ado about nothing.



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29 Jul 2022, 8:54 pm

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It's hard to deny that media misrepresented the story and only only a portion of the video was presented for political expediency. The calling for doxing a 16-year-old for wearing a MAGA hat was revolting.


But it wasn't mainstream media that created the fire, or that was feeding or calling for the doxing or taking other damaging actions. They were very far behind the social media spread, and had quickly moved beyond the edited clip to find the real or at least deeper story. Which might beg the question who is to blame when it gets so difficult to find the actual guilty parties, but it isn't as simple as charging at the deepest pockets.

As I've said before, I had memes and a shortened clip in my Facebook feed within minutes of the incident. Spread by FRIENDS who believed other friends. Long before a single news agency said a word.

I appreciated that my favored news sources were willing to spend time looking at how it all got started and off the rails so fast. The fact is was a story at all soon became the story for the mainstream media, and I think that was appropriate.

Fault belongs with the person who edited down that video and wrote the nasty label on it. That person was just a person spreading what they thought was cheeky gossip, not realizing there is no such thing on social media.


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29 Jul 2022, 9:07 pm

I made this point before, but I think it was hilarious to believe that CNN gave two s**ts about the Native American man being disrespected. They didn't care when Native Americans at the DAPL protests when the were being blasted with water cannons in sub freezing weather for protecting their water. There was basically a media blackout surrounding the sad story.


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29 Jul 2022, 9:12 pm

Yes, CNN started the fire by only presenting part of the story. I can't they have any viewers left at all.

To place the blame on whomever edited the video doesn't wash. CNN were fully aware of what they were doing. Anybody who believes otherwise...well, I got a bridge to sell you.


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