Trump Georgia grand jury sends findings to D.A.

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That was called "counting the absentee ballots."

Unfortunately for Trump, the absentee ballots went primarily for Biden. That's the way the ball bounces.

Instead of acknowledging a fair and square defeat, Trump chose, instead, to invent a wide-ranging conspiracy theory pertaining to "widespread election fraud." He kept up this delusion through lies, threats, and obstructions.

Why did they shut everything down suddenly the night of the election while still tallying votes? That is not how it usually works.

Nobody shut anything down.....where do you get that?

We all saw it. Were you not watching?

Well....Trump will never be president again.

Maybe he'll keep playing golf. Maybe he'll wind up in prison. Maybe he'll go back to reality television. Who knows?

That is not the point. The point is our country was defiled in a way that it has never known, and is being lost at a rapid rate. If our elections are not safe, we can only go downhill from here......until we descend into a totalitarian regime. Oh, it won't look like the fascism we have seen in other places where men with weapons walk the streets. It will be more subversive than that. Only our constitution stands between us and that happening right now; we got a taste of it with Covid. And we all know our constitution is dangling by a thread.

What Trump did could lead to what you fear, if it goes unpunished.

What happened in the 2020 election will not lead to what you fear.

I guess you like Trump very much, which is clouding what should be an objective analysis.

Last edited by kraftiekortie on 10 Jan 2023, 9:43 am, edited 1 time in total.

Are you jealous of my feelings for Trump? How cute.

You don't need to feel jealous, Baby, I love you more

Hardy har har.......

You like Trump, and what he stands for, apparently......so there's no reasoning with you.

Just like I am sure Trump incited an insurrection....so there's no reasoning with me.

In essence, since you don't affect my life, and I don't affect your life, there's really no use arguing.

Agreed. Have a great day, Kraftie!

I do wish the Wheels of Justice would become more "progressive," though.

Ok this is the short version of how I view those events.

If the election was stolen by a Democrats/Deep State they must have superpowers because it would mean they got practically every election official and court many of them Republicans to go along with the plot.

Trump was setting the stage for contesting the election as far back as 2016 when he would not pledge to accept the results of that election if he lost. Even after he won he was contesting it in a way because he was saying his popular vote win was stolen. Anybody shocked that he would contest the election in 2020 was not paying attention.

Most political analysts predicted the early votes counted from in person ballots would be more Republican then the mail in votes counted later. That is because Republicans tended to think more that COVID was bad cold or flu being hyped, while democrats tended to be more scared of COVID thus would mail in their ballots. Also it takes longer to count in “blue” cities because their are more votes to count. The situation that occurred where Trump took the early lead but lost as more votes were counted was not a surprise but it sure looked suspicious.

We are dealing with mostly NT’s here. They often do not take things literally but communicate with hidden meanings. At the end of the rally he did literally say keep it peaceful. He never directly said break into Capital and violently stop the certification and hang Mike Pence while you are are it. But to a man and women the rioters have said they felt Trump was ordering them. Also ordering law enforcement not to check for guns is not a good look.

You need to prove a crime beyond a reasonable doubt. Maybe his not directly ordering the rioters to storm the Capital, and saying to the Georgian election official “get” votes not literally steal votes will be enough to prevent indictments or if indicted conviction. We will see.

Waiting for charges coming out of Georgia. trump's scared s**tless over state charges, too - which is awesome.

trump lost the election when the votes were tallied. If there was any sort of widespread fraud in play as he claimed, he'd have been able to prove it in court. Instead he lost 60 or more frivolous lawsuits he filed about the election because there's absolutely zero evidence that anything was amiss. Dude simply lost and his fragile psyche can't accept it so he whines to his cult members that the election was stolen and people without critical thinking skills believe and defend him.

Well, they got the main cities involved, the ones who are notoriously corrupted with election fraud already, so not much effort/conspiracy required there.



So what. I would have said (or thought) the same thing. He has a sixth sense for winning.



That is where you lost me. Political analysts also tend to be left-biased, as is this forum.



Um. No. you are really reaching here.



If we still live in America, he will not be punished. If he is punished, it is because Americal is becoming lost and no one is safe.

Just think how this all needs to be rectified though. The wrong man is in office, a man placed there by the deep state/elite globalists who want your total obeisance. My stock portfolio alone has dropped from 170% in Trump era to 20% with Biden, not suddenly but gradually over the past two years. I am sure by another two years, it will be gone. Thanks Biden and all the idiots that voted for him!! !! !! !

There were thousands of pages of evidence, verbal testimony, and video. But that is how corrupt our judicial system is. And how sleazy the enemy is.

You can't possibly believe this or your last post.

Even judges appointed by trump determined there was no evidence to support his claims.

trump lied, as he did thousands and thousands of times throughout his presidency, and with exactly Zero evidence you believe his word over judges, lawyers, investigators, auditors, elections officials etc etc etc..

What's more plausible? Tens of Thousands at minimum, but up to Hundreds of Thousands or even Millions of people all over the country at all levels of the electoral process involved in a massive conspiracy that there's literally Zero evidence of, OR, one big fat orange guy is telling lies like he consistently tells about damned near everything?

I'll give you a hint: It's the big fat orange liar.