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09 Mar 2023, 9:12 pm

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You might recall there was a report that members of the policeforce (not the ones stationed in the capitol building who were awarded bravery medals) were in cahoots with the rioters. Infact some of the GOP were taking rioters through the building prior to the storming of the capitol. There remains a question mark as to how high up was the GOP involvement in the riots that followed. Seeing Trump Jr fist pumping the air with his wife as they watched the stortming of the capitol building makes me wonder their level of complicity.


Ditto. That does not a coup make. It was a protest (which btw, politicians are often involved in organising, overtly or not) that turned into a festival of stupidity, selfies and minor property damage as protests sometimes do.


I have trouble understanding how some ppl can't see that.
Of course, the left beat up the situation.
What hyperpartisan politician would not?



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10 Mar 2023, 12:34 am

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https://www.nysun.com/article/new-video-footage-could-be-legal-magic-for-qanon-shaman

New Video Footage Could Be Legal Magic for ‘QAnon Shaman’

Attorney General Garland, in the wake of the disclosures of footage from government cameras showing the “QAnon Shaman,” Jacob Chansley, being guided through the Capitol by uniformed police on January 6, 2021, has an obligation to bring, if he hasn’t done so already, the evidence to the attention of Chansley’s lawyers and the court.

That is the opinion of one of America’s leading defense lawyers, Harvey Silverglate of Boston. “It is the legal obligation of the attorney general,” he told the Sun in an interview this morning, to furnish all material footage from the January 6 riot to those charged for their actions that day.

That obligation was ordained by the Supreme Court on several occasions and was insisted upon by Mr. Silverglate, who himself is representing President Trump’s attorney, John Eastman, in the criminal probe in Georgia. Nearly 1,000 persons have been charged in connection with the January 6 riot.

It is unclear at the moment what tapes were seen by Chansley, whose lawyer could not be reached by presstime. The release of the footage, though, has prompted a flurry of requests for trial delays from J6 defendants.

If his lawyers have not seen the videos they are bad lawyers. They have been all over social media.


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10 Mar 2023, 12:38 am

Pepe wrote:
Mikah wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
You might recall there was a report that members of the policeforce (not the ones stationed in the capitol building who were awarded bravery medals) were in cahoots with the rioters. Infact some of the GOP were taking rioters through the building prior to the storming of the capitol. There remains a question mark as to how high up was the GOP involvement in the riots that followed. Seeing Trump Jr fist pumping the air with his wife as they watched the stortming of the capitol building makes me wonder their level of complicity.


Ditto. That does not a coup make. It was a protest (which btw, politicians are often involved in organising, overtly or not) that turned into a festival of stupidity, selfies and minor property damage as protests sometimes do.


I have trouble understanding how some ppl can't see that.
Of course, the left beat up the situation.
What hyperpartisan politician would not?

It was an attempted coup or failed coup. Just because it was amateur does not change this.


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10 Mar 2023, 3:22 am

ASPartOfMe wrote:
Pepe wrote:
Mikah wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
You might recall there was a report that members of the policeforce (not the ones stationed in the capitol building who were awarded bravery medals) were in cahoots with the rioters. Infact some of the GOP were taking rioters through the building prior to the storming of the capitol. There remains a question mark as to how high up was the GOP involvement in the riots that followed. Seeing Trump Jr fist pumping the air with his wife as they watched the stortming of the capitol building makes me wonder their level of complicity.


Ditto. That does not a coup make. It was a protest (which btw, politicians are often involved in organising, overtly or not) that turned into a festival of stupidity, selfies and minor property damage as protests sometimes do.


I have trouble understanding how some ppl can't see that.
Of course, the left beat up the situation.
What hyperpartisan politician would not?

It was an attempted coup or failed coup. Just because it was amateur does not change this.


I haven't seen anything to convince me.
Perhaps I am too much of an independent centrist.



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10 Mar 2023, 12:41 pm

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Frankly I think what Trump's mob did on January 6th was worst seeing how as they tried to overthrow the freakin government.



Was NEVER going to happen.
Buffalo horns against assault rifles?
Seriously? 8O


You can insist it was never going to happen, but that doesn't diminish that it was their goal. :shameonyou:


You mean EVERY SINGLE REPUBLICAN?
"Interesting."


It doesn't need to be every single Republican, just the ones who participated in the attack is enough.


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10 Mar 2023, 10:46 pm

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JUST IN: Censored video re-emerges of Jacob Chansley reading Trump’s tweet, telling protestors to GO HOME and remain peaceful..

WON’T SEE THIS ON CNN…


https://twitter.com/ChuckCallesto/statu ... 8958932995



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10 Mar 2023, 10:49 pm

funeralxempire wrote:
Pepe wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Pepe wrote:
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Frankly I think what Trump's mob did on January 6th was worst seeing how as they tried to overthrow the freakin government.



Was NEVER going to happen.
Buffalo horns against assault rifles?
Seriously? 8O


You can insist it was never going to happen, but that doesn't diminish that it was their goal. :shameonyou:


You mean EVERY SINGLE REPUBLICAN?
"Interesting."


It doesn't need to be every single Republican, just the ones who participated in the attack is enough.


As has been mentioned:
Buffalo horns against assault rifles does not an insurrection make.



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10 Mar 2023, 11:10 pm

Pepe wrote:
Buffalo horns against assault rifles does not an insurrection make.


Chancely seemed quite aggressive until the guns showed up
There's a reason he's behind bars.



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10 Mar 2023, 11:15 pm

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As has been mentioned:
Buffalo horns against assault rifles does not an insurrection make.


Your reliance on thought-terminating clichés is at odds with your claim to being the Oracle of Truth.

Especially when the Oath Keepers had weapons caches.

Ignorance is no excuse.


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11 Mar 2023, 2:04 am

Mikah wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
You might recall there was a report that members of the policeforce (not the ones stationed in the capitol building who were awarded bravery medals) were in cahoots with the rioters. Infact some of the GOP were taking rioters through the building prior to the storming of the capitol. There remains a question mark as to how high up was the GOP involvement in the riots that followed. Seeing Trump Jr fist pumping the air with his wife as they watched the stortming of the capitol building makes me wonder their level of complicity.


Ditto. That does not a coup make. It was a protest (which btw, politicians are often involved in organising, overtly or not) that turned into a festival of stupidity, selfies and minor property damage as protests sometimes do.


There were obviously leaders of the Proud Boys, Oath Keepers, and other paramilitary groups that had conspired to force congress to reverse the election results in favor of Trump. They were just tried and convicted of sedition.
Various Republican lawmakers had met with rioters previously, even giving them tours of the congressional offices in advance of the riot.
Then there's the whole hair brained fake elector scheme coinciding with the riot that can't have just been coincidence.
That does constitute a coup.


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11 Mar 2023, 2:23 am

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Then there's the whole hair brained fake elector scheme coinciding with the riot that can't have just been coincidence.
That does constitute a coup.


Theres good evidence the handful of cops who put their bodies on the line in drawing the MAGA mob as a diversion perhaps saved congressmen and women's lives.

What was their endgame? quite literally to eliminate congress and force a recount to return Trump to power. Would love to have seen the army parachuted in and blow their brains out.



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11 Mar 2023, 2:27 am

funeralxempire wrote:
Pepe wrote:
As has been mentioned:
Buffalo horns against assault rifles does not an insurrection make.


Your reliance on thought-terminating clichés is at odds with your claim to being the Oracle of Truth.

Especially when the Oath Keepers had weapons caches.

Ignorance is no excuse.


Thankfully, the "insurrectionists" "forgot" they had them. :mrgreen:
You are aware that the only meaningful weapons the rioters had at hand at Capitol Hill were a spear and buffalo horns?
There were PLENTY of guns at CHOP, with antifa "guarding" their secessionist sector.

A lack of an objective mindset is no excuse.



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11 Mar 2023, 2:36 am

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Theres good evidence the handful of cops who put their bodies on the line in drawing the MAGA mob as a diversion perhaps saved congressmen and women's lives.


Speculation.
Nothing happened, remember?
Reality, not fantasy, is on my side.

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What was their endgame? quite literally to eliminate congress and force a recount to return Trump to power.


Speculation.
Nothing happened, remember?
Reality, not fantasy, is on my side.

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Would love to have seen the army parachuted in and blow their brains out.


Would you have wanted the army to storm CHOP, also?



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11 Mar 2023, 2:42 am

"Would love to have seen the army parachuted in and blow their brains out."


the side of violence
& the voice of compassion and "science" hehe, even from far away, it must be hard work to have no compas at all



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11 Mar 2023, 3:00 am

traven wrote:
"Would love to have seen the army parachuted in and blow their brains out."


the side of violence
& the voice of compassion and "science" hehe, even from far away, it must be hard work to have no compas at all


OUCH! 8O



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11 Mar 2023, 3:10 am

traven wrote:
"Would love to have seen the army parachuted in and blow their brains out."


the side of violence
& the voice of compassion and "science" hehe, even from far away, it must be hard work to have no compas at all


Sorry alcohol swirling around my brain cells....