US Justice system appears completely incompetent

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04 May 2023, 10:06 pm

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Here is a snapshot from my minds eye

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04 May 2023, 10:07 pm

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1. I thought this thread was going to be about supreme court justice clarence thomas, the guy that accepted a whole bunch of bribes from a billionaire in exchange for helping get certain outcomes from the court.

2. Magic mushrooms don't make you racist, blind to things that happened, or stupid. If anything they'd have made the guy realize people are all the same, and that in this case a white woman drover her car into blm protesters, and that she deserves to be punished for it.

edit: I dunno what video you guys are watching, but the article only has a 6 second clip that shows her mowing people down - nothing leading up to it so impossible to tell if someone was trying to get into her car or anything like that ??


Agree with all the above. I might have over-stated the impact but the woman is a wealthy middle class Karen driving a BMW and (I am guessing) was angry she was being held up from her high tea or cocktail luncheon and hearing the "privilege" accusation being audible must have tipped her over the edge that her BMW was potentially get dented. If I was caught in her position I would not be happy either but I'm not an idiot, I would a) lock the windows/doors (BMWs have this capability) b) claim any damage or dents on insurance and slowly reverse out before trying to drive into a mob.

She chose to drive into the mob and did so at speed she knew would kill somebody. Anyone else would have got jail.



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04 May 2023, 10:07 pm

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Its not the system that fails...humans are and will always be the weakest link...

As in the average American voter wouldn't know their ass from their elbow.


Agreed...
As a species, humanity is a f*****g joke. :roll:



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04 May 2023, 10:11 pm

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but this video shows that her car was touched, someone bangs on the window and someone tries to open the door before she lost the plot.


It's very touch and go and the margin is very very slim. I think what saved this Karen is she used her daughter being in the car as validation for driving into protestors. Keep in mind if just one of the injured died she would be in jail.


I see it more that she drove away in panic after someone tried to open the car door rather than targetting ppl.
I have seen something like this before when a POC was surrounded by a bikie gang.

What would YOU have done if you had your family in the car and someone would have tried to enter? :scratch:



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04 May 2023, 10:18 pm

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To me, it looked as though the woman nudged one of the protestors before he retaliated.
I'd be pissed off, also...


Something definitely happened off camera to that guy, which is maybe why it escalated to what looks like a lynch mob?

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But assuming you are correct, I'd be in fear of being physically attacked also.

It seems to be a case of stupidity all around. 8)


f**k living in America, that's all I say.


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04 May 2023, 10:28 pm

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I would not be happy either but I'm not an idiot, I would a) lock the windows/doors (BMWs have this capability) b) claim any damage or dents on insurance and slowly reverse out before trying to drive into a mob.



I'd like to think I would act calm and rationally in a situation like this, but it's America and anything goes. If I was in my car with my daughter in America and I thought I was about to get jacked and my daughters life was in a danger I wouldn't even hesitate running f*****s over to potentially save my daughters life - I'm not even joking. I'd rather go to jail than risk her life.


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04 May 2023, 10:33 pm

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Mowing PEOPLE down?
I only saw one person pushed to the ground.
Obviously, if the evidence is in the video, it is in the video.
I might check later, if I have the "spoons". 8)


The video I posted doesn't show her just after the intersection actually hitting people (that is visible in Cybers link)


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04 May 2023, 10:48 pm

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What would YOU have done if you had your family in the car and someone would have tried to enter? :scratch:


I already posted this. I would have reversed out and left the area the moment I saw the protest.



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04 May 2023, 10:55 pm

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I'd like to think I would act calm and rationally in a situation like this, but it's America and anything goes. If I was in my car with my daughter in America and I thought I was about to get jacked and my daughters life was in a danger I wouldn't even hesitate running f*****s over to potentially save my daughters life - I'm not even joking. I'd rather go to jail than risk her life.


I disagree. It demonstrates her arrogance. She felt entitled to drive into a crowd because she felt her rights > than the mobs

As I mentioned twice now, If a normal person witnesses a protesting mob, they would reverse and take a different route.

I also strongly believe she was more worried about damage to her BMW > safety of her daughter or protestors. In order to avoid protestors damaging her car she made a split second decision to potentially kill a few. Her intent is what she has been trying to conceal. And she has been successful in suckering the judge.

She's a female Kyle Rittenhouse, except she used her vehicle to kill whereas Rittenhosue used his AR15. Both of them used a dangerous weapon and claimed self-defense and both of them were in a place they should not have been,

I would be very very interested if she drove past barricades or chose to endganger her everyone because she was trying to make a short cut. All of this was never investigated under cross-examination



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04 May 2023, 11:03 pm

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I'd like to think I would act calm and rationally in a situation like this, but it's America and anything goes. If I was in my car with my daughter in America and I thought I was about to get jacked and my daughters life was in a danger I wouldn't even hesitate running f*****s over to potentially save my daughters life - I'm not even joking. I'd rather go to jail than risk her life.


I disagree. It demonstrates her arrogance. She felt entitled to drive into a crowd because she felt her rights > than the mobs

As I mentioned twice now, If a normal person witnesses a protesting mob, they would reverse and take a different route.

I also strongly believe she was more worried about damage to her BMW > safety of her daughter or protestors. In order to avoid protestors damaging her car she made a split second decision to potentially kill a few. Her intent is what she has been trying to conceal. And she has been successful in suckering the judge.

She's a female Kyle Rittenhouse, except she used her vehicle to kill whereas Rittenhosue used his AR15. Both of them used a dangerous weapon and claimed self-defense and both of them were in a place they should not have been,

I would be very very interested if she drove past barricades or chose to endganger her everyone because she was trying to make a short cut. All of this was never investigated under cross-examination


This theory is nonsense and I will tell you why:
Do you know how much damage a car would take when hitting a person (or a wombat)?
And what of the legal consequences?
It sounds more like a panic reaction to me.

Perhaps we should just "agree to disagree"? :wink:



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04 May 2023, 11:31 pm

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I'd like to think I would act calm and rationally in a situation like this, but it's America and anything goes. If I was in my car with my daughter in America and I thought I was about to get jacked and my daughters life was in a danger I wouldn't even hesitate running f*****s over to potentially save my daughters life - I'm not even joking. I'd rather go to jail than risk her life.


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05 May 2023, 12:18 am

Pepe wrote:
Do you know how much damage a car would take when hitting a person (or a wombat)?
And what of the legal consequences?
It sounds more like a panic reaction to me.

Perhaps we should just "agree to disagree"? :wink:


I'd prefer a psychologist make that decision and not a judge. In my view a judge is no more qualified to make this interpretation on her intent any more than Joe Bloggs randomly picked off the street.



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05 May 2023, 12:37 am

cyberdad wrote:
Pepe wrote:
Do you know how much damage a car would take when hitting a person (or a wombat)?
And what of the legal consequences?
It sounds more like a panic reaction to me.

Perhaps we should just "agree to disagree"? :wink:


I'd prefer a psychologist make that decision and not a judge. In my view a judge is no more qualified to make this interpretation on her intent any more than Joe Bloggs randomly picked off the street.


Psychologists can be brought into the court to give their expert advice



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05 May 2023, 1:04 am

Pepe wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Pepe wrote:
Do you know how much damage a car would take when hitting a person (or a wombat)?
And what of the legal consequences?
It sounds more like a panic reaction to me.

Perhaps we should just "agree to disagree"? :wink:


I'd prefer a psychologist make that decision and not a judge. In my view a judge is no more qualified to make this interpretation on her intent any more than Joe Bloggs randomly picked off the street.


Psychologists can be brought into the court to give their expert advice


In this case one wasn't called in



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05 May 2023, 1:16 am

cyberdad wrote:
Pepe wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Pepe wrote:
Do you know how much damage a car would take when hitting a person (or a wombat)?
And what of the legal consequences?
It sounds more like a panic reaction to me.

Perhaps we should just "agree to disagree"? :wink:


I'd prefer a psychologist make that decision and not a judge. In my view a judge is no more qualified to make this interpretation on her intent any more than Joe Bloggs randomly picked off the street.


Psychologists can be brought into the court to give their expert advice


In this case one wasn't called in


Blame the prosecution for not doing their job, I guess. :scratch:



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05 May 2023, 1:32 am

This video shows Castillo started it,,,,she was blowing her horn at the protestors
She quite clearly reacted to a cyclist tapping her car telling her to stop,




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