Congresswoman Rashida Tlaib Censured
Dox47 wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Kessler's death is likely to be upgraded to a hate crime, His killers seem to fled the scene when the cops turned up.
Eh, that seems like a stretch, I don't think the killing was intentional and it was done in hot blood during a confrontation at a protest, a hate crime would be more like sucker punching someone cause they were wearing a yarmulke.
He was basically stomped on because he had a Star of David flag
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Dox47 wrote:
ASPartOfMe wrote:
Would a representative have been censured if something like that was said 30 years ago? Universally condemned, yes. Formally censored I doubt it.
What makes you think that? I could certainly see someone being censured for saying something, say, supportive of the Taliban in the post 9/11 era, or for praising South Africa in the 80s.
ASPartOfMe wrote:
What has changed? Situations like those you described above have made it more acceptable to try and silence all levels of offensive speech perceived or otherwise.
Again, I'd be agreeing with you if this was some nobody who was being punished for a bad opinion, or an old one that wasn't controversial at the time, but an elected official speaking in her official capacity is a different kettle of fish, particularly when we're not just talking the slogan but also refusing to back down from the debunked hospital bombing story.
I would agree with post 9/11 not so much the 80s. That is why I said 30 years ago not 20 years ago. Then and still somewhat today a lot had to do how much the elected official got along with peers.
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cyberdad wrote:
Dox47 wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Kessler's death is likely to be upgraded to a hate crime, His killers seem to fled the scene when the cops turned up.
Eh, that seems like a stretch, I don't think the killing was intentional and it was done in hot blood during a confrontation at a protest, a hate crime would be more like sucker punching someone cause they were wearing a yarmulke.
He was basically stomped on because he had a Star of David flag
We are still unsure exactly what happened with that situation.
Going offtopic from the offtopic Kessler and me are in the same age bracket. In most cases we should stay away from situations where there is a competing demonstration and if we do go avoid engaging with the other side. That particular situation was particularly fraught. There were only a few demonstrators and no cops around making it hard to avoid engaging with the other side. It is disgusting that this is what it has come down to but it has. You getting killed, hurt, or having a heart attack does little to advance your cause. At most you will be a martyr for a few days.
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