Pupil bloodied beyond recognition by teenage girls

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26 Sep 2007, 7:16 pm

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It is a shame--- bullies get off easy, often. But if the victim ever tries to stand up for themselves or fights back, the victim ends up getting in trouble with the school/law/etc.


Well said, what changes in the law would be required for this to stop happening?



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27 Sep 2007, 3:17 am

While I love a good hanging just as much as the next person, I find calls for the death penalty in this case a tad over the top. :roll:

A public flogging might be more appropriate.



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27 Sep 2007, 9:52 am

Just think they wonder why people who are bullied just snap sometimes and take out a bunch of people :x


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27 Sep 2007, 11:25 am

Anna4077 wrote:
A public flogging might be more appropriate.

Schools should be able to administer corporal punishment, and parents be allowed to physically punish their kids without fear of being prosecuted for abuse. We need to go back to how things were thirty years ago, then we'd see less of this kind of thing.

In addition, I can't help but suspect that this was a racially motivated attack. The lack of certain details indicates information is being deliberately withheld. This is often the case, now, when white people are attacked by ethnic minorities, because reporting the facts can be construed as a race-hate crime.

If you want a good hanging, we could start with the political scum who've turned this country into such a dump.



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27 Sep 2007, 11:39 am

Can the parents of the attackers be sued in the UK?



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27 Sep 2007, 1:02 pm

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Can the parents of the attackers be sued in the UK?


There a government movement to "end bullying". Plans include £1000 pound fines for parents who cannot control bullying offspring, and the implementation of "safe rooms" for bullied kids, amongst other things. Debatable that it will help, but its better than nowt.

Its an age-old problem, with various root causes, which makes it hard to stop. I dont think it can be stopped completely, but there are things that could be done to minimize it. TBH it should probably start at the schools, because a lot of them seem completely ineffectual at dealing with this s**t. After that.. who knows?


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27 Sep 2007, 1:28 pm

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...There a government movement to "end bullying". Plans include £1000 pound fines for parents who cannot control bullying offspring...

Typical of this government: their policies have been instrumental in causing the problem, yet they hope most people will have forgotten so they can use the situation to attempt to curry favour by imposing even more ill-conceived legislation.

I wonder how the hell parents are supposed to control kids when all the kids have to do is report them to the police for abuse as soon as a hand is raised against them?



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27 Sep 2007, 1:34 pm

ascan wrote:
Macbeth wrote:
...There a government movement to "end bullying". Plans include £1000 pound fines for parents who cannot control bullying offspring...

Typical of this government: their policies have been instrumental in causing the problem, yet they hope most people will have forgotten so they can use the situation to attempt to curry favour by imposing even more ill-conceived legislation.

I wonder how the hell parents are supposed to control kids when all the kids have to do is report them to the police for abuse as soon as a hand is raised against them?


Therein lies one of the problems. Often a bully is a product of a bullying or unpleasant home environment. I cant imagine it will get MORE pleasant when "knuckles" Macintyre's parents are a cool grand worse off for his behaviour. And, as you say, its very easy to pul a switch, and become a "victim".. which is why many teachers have difficulty controlling or stopping bullying. any intervention on their part might get it turned round on them.
I dont suppose that the prevalent weapons culture helps with that either, nor the governments insistence on education for everyone, regardless of how disruptive they are.


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