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LeKiwi
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28 May 2008, 3:34 pm

GodsGadfly wrote:
"There are other reasons for people to get that shot even if they don't intend to have promiscuous sex, there are plenty of other opportunities to contract that illness and you really don't want to."
And I would agree that a medical professional would definitely be an exception, as are restaurant workers, both because of risks of exposure and the risks of passing disease on to others.

However, none of the reasons that one can contract Hep-B apply to infants.

It's a principle called "remote material cooperation," which is usually explained this way: a restaurant is owned by the Mafia. The restaurant itself is a fairly legitimate business, but, by supporting it, you're going to be supporting the Mafia.

a) If the person doesn't know the restaurant is owned by the Mafia, obviously she doesn't have any culpability for shopping there. No guilt
b) If a person *knows* the restaurant is owned by the Mafia, and shops there for that reason, obviously the person is actively trying to suppot the Mafia. Mortal sin

Between these two extremes are a variety of situations that depend upon the circumstances and the intentions of the person.

For example, it's the only restaurant in town. The person could eat at home, of course, or go to the grocery store, but is about to pass out from low blood sugar--it's OK to eat there.
But if there's another restaurant in town, which is not owned by the Mob, then the person is morally obliged to eat at the othe restaurant.
OR the person could choose to fast, enduring the fatigue and stomach pain until he or she gets home. This would be what the Church calls "heroic virtue" (what gets a person canonized).

The most important point is that there are alternatives available in other countries for most of the vaccines in question, but the FDA won't let them in.



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28 May 2008, 3:53 pm

GodsGadfly wrote:
"There are other reasons for people to get that shot even if they don't intend to have promiscuous sex, there are plenty of other opportunities to contract that illness and you really don't want to."
And I would agree that a medical professional would definitely be an exception, as are restaurant workers, both because of risks of exposure and the risks of passing disease on to others.

However, none of the reasons that one can contract Hep-B apply to infants.

It's a principle called "remote material cooperation," which is usually explained this way: a restaurant is owned by the Mafia. The restaurant itself is a fairly legitimate business, but, by supporting it, you're going to be supporting the Mafia.

a) If the person doesn't know the restaurant is owned by the Mafia, obviously she doesn't have any culpability for shopping there. No guilt
b) If a person *knows* the restaurant is owned by the Mafia, and shops there for that reason, obviously the person is actively trying to suppot the Mafia. Mortal sin

Between these two extremes are a variety of situations that depend upon the circumstances and the intentions of the person.

For example, it's the only restaurant in town. The person could eat at home, of course, or go to the grocery store, but is about to pass out from low blood sugar--it's OK to eat there.
But if there's another restaurant in town, which is not owned by the Mob, then the person is morally obliged to eat at the othe restaurant.
OR the person could choose to fast, enduring the fatigue and stomach pain until he or she gets home. This would be what the Church calls "heroic virtue" (what gets a person canonized).

The most important point is that there are alternatives available in other countries for most of the vaccines in question, but the FDA won't let them in.

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28 May 2008, 4:44 pm

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28 May 2008, 10:43 pm

"including breastfeeding, birth itself. "
Both of which then imply that the mother has it.



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29 May 2008, 1:17 am

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