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15 Jun 2018, 1:31 am

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I'm a published writer, but I couldn't do a higher math equation to save my life.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_with_bipolar_disorder Easily 41 writers/song writers/screen writers there.

Sure, there are autistic politicians (e.g. the mayor of Taipei), or bipolar scientists (e.g. Ludwig Boltmann). There are autistic/bipolar/schizophrenic people probably in every single profession. But when you do clustering analysis a la machine learning (which is basically stereotyping), you can't say there is strong correlation between writers and autism.

You don't see in the news autistic people committing suicide that often. But bipolar artists committing suicide is a dime a dozen. (I'll talk about bipolar and modulation in the future.)


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15 Jun 2018, 1:56 am

eikonabridge wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
I'm a published writer, but I couldn't do a higher math equation to save my life.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_with_bipolar_disorder Easily 41 writers/song writers/screen writers there.

Sure, there are autistic politicians (e.g. the mayor of Taipei), or bipolar scientists (e.g. Ludwig Boltmann). There are autistic/bipolar/schizophrenic people probably in every single profession. But when you do clustering analysis a la machine learning (which is basically stereotyping), you can't say there is strong correlation between writers and autism.

You don't see in the news autistic people committing suicide that often. But bipolar artists committing suicide is a dime a dozen. (I'll talk about bipolar and modulation in the future.)

I figure people in the arts belong to a wide range of conditions, ranging from autism, to schizophrenia, to manic depression, etc.


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15 Jun 2018, 7:57 am

eikonabridge wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
I'm a published writer, but I couldn't do a higher math equation to save my life.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_with_bipolar_disorder Easily 41 writers/song writers/screen writers there.

Sure, there are autistic politicians (e.g. the mayor of Taipei), or bipolar scientists (e.g. Ludwig Boltmann). There are autistic/bipolar/schizophrenic people probably in every single profession. But when you do clustering analysis a la machine learning (which is basically stereotyping), you can't say there is strong correlation between writers and autism.

You don't see in the news autistic people committing suicide that often. But bipolar artists committing suicide is a dime a dozen. (I'll talk about bipolar and modulation in the future.)


And?

I'm autistic and I'm better at art than math/science.


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15 Jun 2018, 9:17 am

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I don't get the pride concept. Not that I'm against others feeling that way. But to me it's like being proud that my hair is a certain color or that I'm a certain height. I'm proud of stuff I accomplish.

Proud to be bipolar: https://djbooth.net/features/2018-06-04-kanye-west-bipolar-disorder-superpower
Proud to be gay: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_pride
Proud to be American: https://youtu.be/ox4IRQVGsBU

I guess the common theme is that there are prejudices/stigma/perceived injustice out there (that's true even for, say, hate groups, white supremacists, etc.). So, people grab an identity. It's always a bit of us-vs-them. In absence of a "them," people wouldn't feel a need to be proud of an identity. No one would say: "I am proud to be a human," because, who are you going to brag that to?


Things like pride and envy et al don't register much with me on a personal level.



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15 Jun 2018, 9:18 am

It's sort of good that you're channeling your "inner James Brown."



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15 Jun 2018, 9:20 am

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Temple Grandin often says in her public autism speeches, "We need autistics because they see the details".


I am good at seeing details others miss.

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I'm autistic, and I'm much better at art than I am math/science.


I suck at both.



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15 Jun 2018, 9:22 am

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It's sort of good that you're channeling your "inner James Brown."


:?:



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15 Jun 2018, 9:47 am

James Brown wrote a song called "Say It Loud, I'm Black and I'm Proud."



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17 Jun 2018, 12:57 am

EzraS wrote:
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Temple Grandin often says in her public autism speeches, "We need autistics because they see the details".


I am good at seeing details others miss.

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I'm autistic, and I'm much better at art than I am math/science.


I suck at both.

Your writing indicates that you're a kid genius.


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17 Jun 2018, 6:25 am

LoveNotHate wrote:
EzraS wrote:
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Temple Grandin often says in her public autism speeches, "We need autistics because they see the details".


I am good at seeing details others miss.

XFilesGeek wrote:
I'm autistic, and I'm much better at art than I am math/science.


I suck at both.

Your writing indicates that you're a kid genius.


Thanks. Unfortunately a good deal of other academic areas says otherwise. The writing is my savant thingy I guess.



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21 Feb 2019, 9:28 pm

CockneyRebel wrote:
I'm Proud!

I'm to.



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22 Feb 2019, 9:16 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
It's sort of good that you're channeling your "inner James Brown."


https://youtu.be/_e9WDfg2idk



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23 Feb 2019, 3:12 pm

EzraS wrote:
LoveNotHate wrote:
EzraS wrote:
LoveNotHate wrote:
Temple Grandin often says in her public autism speeches, "We need autistics because they see the details".


I am good at seeing details others miss.

XFilesGeek wrote:
I'm autistic, and I'm much better at art than I am math/science.


I suck at both.

Your writing indicates that you're a kid genius.


Thanks. Unfortunately a good deal of other academic areas says otherwise. The writing is my savant thingy I guess.


Now if only you could combine your vocabulary with knowing what you're talking about; then you'd really have something going. 8)


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23 Feb 2019, 4:13 pm

eikonabridge wrote:
I guess the common theme is that there are prejudices/stigma/perceived injustice out there (that's true even for, say, hate groups, white supremacists, etc.). So, people grab an identity. It's always a bit of us-vs-them. In absence of a "them," people wouldn't feel a need to be proud of an identity. No one would say: "I am proud to be a human," because, who are you going to brag that to?


At last somebody has managed to summarise in one paragraph what i have been trying to say in thousands of posts over the last 7 yrs on WP. The missing link here is social stigma...we all internalise it....



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23 Feb 2019, 4:16 pm

cyberdad wrote:
eikonabridge wrote:
I guess the common theme is that there are prejudices/stigma/perceived injustice out there (that's true even for, say, hate groups, white supremacists, etc.). So, people grab an identity. It's always a bit of us-vs-them. In absence of a "them," people wouldn't feel a need to be proud of an identity. No one would say: "I am proud to be a human," because, who are you going to brag that to?


At last somebody has managed to summarise in one paragraph what i have been trying to say in thousands of posts over the last 7 yrs on WP. The missing link here is social stigma...we all internalise it....


Interesting.

Maybe it's once "others," (from the stars) walk among us that we unite as proud to be human? :? :P


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23 Feb 2019, 6:14 pm

goldfish21 wrote:
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eikonabridge wrote:
I guess the common theme is that there are prejudices/stigma/perceived injustice out there (that's true even for, say, hate groups, white supremacists, etc.). So, people grab an identity. It's always a bit of us-vs-them. In absence of a "them," people wouldn't feel a need to be proud of an identity. No one would say: "I am proud to be a human," because, who are you going to brag that to?


At last somebody has managed to summarise in one paragraph what i have been trying to say in thousands of posts over the last 7 yrs on WP. The missing link here is social stigma...we all internalise it....


Interesting.

Maybe it's once "others," (from the stars) walk among us that we unite as proud to be human? :? :P


Put simply We have more in common as "humans" than what differentiates us. Out primitive instinct is to overestimate the importance of differences in our biology/behaviour as if that still matters to our survival as species. As a species we have become technologically advanced but our brains are still catching up.