Iraq war 'caused slowdown in the US'

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And the fact that it hasn't been accompanied by a tax increase to pay for it is good too ... compound interest on the debt will only make us stronger!!

Ok let the economy crash, then............
People will just pick themselves up by the bootstraps and quickly rebuild a much better society than we had before. I'm not scared of change, short-term scarcity, competition, and creative thought. I could go out to my 50 foot X 50 foot backyard and plant enough food for survival.

Youve exported all your factories.

Thats the spirit!

By the way, i hope you dont have any M-13 gangs in your hood?

Yea, and replaced it with technology. Do some reading.

An analysis of the history of technology shows that technological change is exponential, contrary to the common-sense 'intuitive linear' view. So we won't experience 100 years of progress in the 21st century—it will be more like 20,000 years of progress (at today's rate). The 'returns,' such as chip speed and cost-effectiveness, also increase exponentially. There's even exponential growth in the rate of exponential growth. Within a few decades, machine intelligence will surpass human intelligence, leading to the Singularity—technological change so rapid and profound it represents a rupture in the fabric of human history. The implications include the merger of biological and nonbiological intelligence, immortal software-based humans, and ultra-high levels of intelligence that expand outward in the universe at the speed of light.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accelerating_change

The only technology you have is GM and surveillance. Cross brave new world with 1984 and there you go.

80 percent of the s**t is made in the US huckleberry. lol

I'm a gardener, and think it makes sense to do more. But you think you could live off of 0.06 acres?? Some one who was really good at gardening could probably get all their fresh vegetables from 0.06 acres if they had ideal soil and climate. I have a grapefruit tree that takes up nearly 30x30 of the hypothetical 50x50 space - lots of grapefruit in the winter, but the 50x50 space is a tad optimistic.

Got New Guinea winged beans?

Monty do you believe in buying "organic" food from groceries as opposed to the other generic fruits and vegetables? A local garderner told me that if the food has a thick skin like a tomatoe or squash it doesn't matter. Only foods like strawberries that have a very absorbable skin should you get organic.

Its not just the chemicals its the nutrients - organic grown everything ha between 15 - 75% more nutrients.

Ive never heard that before about organic food.

http://www.organicnutrition.co.uk/whyor ... rganic.htm

Actually, General Motors can't survive without another government handout.

This makes the greatest American industries:

- Military Hardware
- Security & Surveillance systems
- Telecommunications
- Movies (although India's Bollywood may pass this soon).

95% of the time we buy organic milk - sometimes if the main store is closed, we buy coffee milk from a convenience store. We buy some other organic things, but not so much. Salad or leafy greens we buy organic maybe 30-50% of the time.

It is generally true that thick skinned produce is more resistant to pesticides and bacteria contamination (peel it or boil it when travelling in 3rd world countries). But there are some exceptions - I remember a decade or so back that people were getting sick from eating watermelons that got too much pesticide or a type of pesticide not approved for that - an exception, I am sure.

Some of the benefits of organic are in terms of nutrients, which I think do tend to be higher in organic, although there is no guarantee. Also there are benefits in terms of less pesticide going into the environment and maybe less fertilizer run-off to pollute streams (depends on what organic practices are used). Workers on farms are exposed to much more pesticide than consumers. I am not chemophobic, but think that reducing pesticide use is a good thing.

At home, we use some chemical fertilizers (nitrate, phosphate, etc) but rarely any pesticides - and then, something that breaks down quickly. I think that the total risk of moderate fertilizer use is low. Too much and the plant grows to quick and is not as good (and has too many nitrates). Our soil is almost pure sand, so it is kinda like hydroponics. It took me a few years to figure out that the plants in my yard need regular low doses of nutrients - the common recommendations do not apply to my soil. Also, weed control is a huge issue here - weeds will choke out a garden entirely if not dealt with.