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Dokken
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27 Jan 2009, 7:06 pm

I have a question about the Nation of Islam. Do you have to be black to join? Also, does anyone know why some people refer to Louis Farrakhan as "Black Hitler?"


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27 Jan 2009, 9:43 pm

As far as I know, the Nation of Islam accepts African-Americans only. It's kind of splintered lately, so some sects of it may changed their opinion.

Hasn't anyone mentioned the Palestinian attack (Sirhan Sirhan) and execution of Bobby Kennedy?

Yeah, we attacked the pirates in 1803. Decatur was sent to try to get one of our ships back.

Also, no one's mentioned Teddy Roosevelt's attack on Morocco in the very early 20th Century.

The real deal with Muslims is our support for Israel. It won't change the non-acceptance of at, but as long as we support Israel (in any way, or any amount), we're on the fighting side of Al-islam.
They don't call us the Dar Al Harb (house of war), for nothin'....



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28 Jan 2009, 9:52 am

pakled wrote:
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Hasn't anyone mentioned the Palestinian attack (Sirhan Sirhan) and execution of Bobby Kennedy?



Why should it be mentioned in this context? According to Wikipedia, "Sirhan was born in Jerusalem to a Palestinian Christian family and immigrated as a child to the United States with his family. In his adult life, however, he made several religious conversions, joining Baptist and Seventh-day Adventist churches, and dabbled in the occult."



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28 Jan 2009, 4:37 pm

monty wrote:
pakled wrote:
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Hasn't anyone mentioned the Palestinian attack (Sirhan Sirhan) and execution of Bobby Kennedy?



Why should it be mentioned in this context? According to Wikipedia, "Sirhan was born in Jerusalem to a Palestinian Christian family and immigrated as a child to the United States with his family. In his adult life, however, he made several religious conversions, joining Baptist and Seventh-day Adventist churches, and dabbled in the occult."


Sirhan was a nut job. No matter what his religion is/was he is a nut job.

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25 May 2009, 1:26 am

That lists starts with 1983... what happened in 1982? Operation Peace for Galilee green-lighted by the Reagan Administration, the burning of the towers of Beirut, the Sabra-Shatila massacre of refugees whose security was guaranteed by the American president, by Israelis who were supposed to stay out of Beirut... then the Marines were sent there to secure Israeli military gains, proving again that they were serving Israel and its criminal activities....

And let's go back further than that... from day one of Israel it has wanted to create war between U.S. and Arabs. When Sept 11 2001 happened, Benjamin Netanyahu said "It's very good" - the culmination of Israeli policies spanning decades. In 1954 Operation Susannah, for instance, had Israel attack U.S. targets in Egypt and have Egyptians blamed to cause hostility between the U.S. and Egypt... Israel got away with it. Israel also got away with bombing the USS Liberty and shooting the lifeboats.

The real religious fanaticism that triggered this was the rapture cult craziness that allowed Israel to be established in the first place, validating this cult in the eyes of many and increasing this doomsday cult's power... Arabs are often at a loss to understand the madness, they can't believe it's possible



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25 May 2009, 2:51 am

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It is a small snippet but it's in there so that the reader may not even notice it but it is an insinuation.

I'm referring to that passage in the article that suggests the Muslim world totally hates us because of the two wars, thanks to Bush.


Speaking of “insinuations” and “suggestions “ The Neocons did a whole lot of implying and suggesting from the hip while they were in charge. The most flagrant being the WMD whopper which caused the death of 4300 U.S. soldiers so far. When compared to a whopper like that what people like PAUL SCHEMM writes sounds more like 'The Pet Goat' story. At least Mr. Schemm didn’t cause the death of thousands of our soldiers. When you live by insinuation and suggestion you get to have it thrown in your face. What goes around comes around. I’m a bigger man than that though, so tell you what, if you disown your Neocons and the way they talk I’ll disown writers like PAUL SCHEMM and the way they write, deal?