Dangerous asteroid buzzed by Earth, will return

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03 Mar 2009, 3:20 pm

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"The Earth is too small and fragile a basket for the human race to keep all its eggs in."

- Robert Heinlein


Kind of makes himself feel big and powerful to say something like that, doesn't it? :lol:

Gigantic, male, reverberating bass voice from a hundred feet overhead: "The Earth is TINY, the Earth is WE-HEE-HEE-HEEAK!"

(I have a dramatist's imagination.)

The Earth is actually not fragile. It's been very adaptive to everything that has come along. It's still here, isn't it?


If the dinosaurs could have talked they might have said something like that.

Everything was fine for the dinosaurs until one fine day about 65 million years ago.

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03 Mar 2009, 3:56 pm

ruveyn wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
DeaconBlues wrote:
"The Earth is too small and fragile a basket for the human race to keep all its eggs in."

- Robert Heinlein


Kind of makes himself feel big and powerful to say something like that, doesn't it? :lol:

Gigantic, male, reverberating bass voice from a hundred feet overhead: "The Earth is TINY, the Earth is WE-HEE-HEE-HEEAK!"

(I have a dramatist's imagination.)

The Earth is actually not fragile. It's been very adaptive to everything that has come along. It's still here, isn't it?


If the dinosaurs could have talked they might have said something like that.

Everything was fine for the dinosaurs until one fine day about 65 million years ago.

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The dinosaurs... big deal! We don't want them around anyway. God obviously did us a favor by eliminating them.



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03 Mar 2009, 6:32 pm

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The dinosaurs... big deal! We don't want them around anyway. God obviously did us a favor by eliminating them.


Who will be done a favor when we are eliminated?

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03 Mar 2009, 6:37 pm

ruveyn wrote:
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The dinosaurs... big deal! We don't want them around anyway. God obviously did us a favor by eliminating them.


Who will be done a favor when we are eliminated?

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How long have you got?


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04 Mar 2009, 12:11 am

ruveyn wrote:
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The dinosaurs... big deal! We don't want them around anyway. God obviously did us a favor by eliminating them.


Who will be done a favor when we are eliminated?

ruveyn


Us. I'm looking forward to it!



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04 Mar 2009, 9:23 am

Ragtime wrote:
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The dinosaurs... big deal! We don't want them around anyway. God obviously did us a favor by eliminating them.


Who will be done a favor when we are eliminated?

ruveyn


Us. I'm looking forward to it!


Actually I am not. Even so, we are doomed in the long run and it has nothing to do with our moral qualities (or lack thereof). In nature, nothing lasts forever.

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04 Mar 2009, 10:51 am

ruveyn wrote:
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ruveyn wrote:
Ragtime wrote:

The dinosaurs... big deal! We don't want them around anyway. God obviously did us a favor by eliminating them.


Who will be done a favor when we are eliminated?

ruveyn


Us. I'm looking forward to it!


Actually I am not. Even so, we are doomed in the long run and it has nothing to do with our moral qualities (or lack thereof). In nature, nothing lasts forever.

ruveyn


You wouldn't rather be dead than doomed? I guess as long as you can distract yourself from the feeling of impending doom, life is still preferable to death. It's not the dying I want, it's the life after death.



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04 Mar 2009, 2:06 pm

Cosmic bullets vary. Some are light stones moving about the same as the Earth, some are even cold when they make a soft landing.

Nickel-iron are different, much denser, but some large ones have been found on the surface.

It is not the rock, it's the velosity, some are moving 40,000 miles per second.

M x V =I

I do not take math personally.

One of the Great Apes has an opposed thumb, must be the meaning of the universe, or a birth defect.



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04 Mar 2009, 2:17 pm

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You wouldn't rather be dead than doomed? I guess as long as you can distract yourself from the feeling of impending doom, life is still preferable to death. It's not the dying I want, it's the life after death.


That is utter nonsense. Once you are dead you are gone. No more. Finis.

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12 Mar 2009, 3:16 pm

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Not meaning to feed the paranoia of those afraid of cosmic cataclysms, but these things happen all the time - check spaceweather.com and at the bottom of the page there is a list of known neos and how close they came/will come to the earth. (Note "LD" is the distance from the earth to the moon.) I think the closest one I noticed was a year or two ago one passed at 0.1 LD (which is pretty darned close!), but I could be remembering it wrong.

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The article says this was 1/7th LD, so it was one of the closest. How big was that other one (the 0.1 LD)?


Don't remember.... actually, lemme check.... hmmm I think it was this one. A lot more recent... (memory goes once you pass 18, you know).

Object (2009 EJ1)

Close-Approach Date Ascending (TDB) YYYY-mmm-DD HH:MM ± D_HH:MM 2009-Feb-27 19:44 ± 02:32
Miss Distance Nominal (LD/AU) 0.2/0.0004
Miss Distance Minimum (LD/AU) 0.1/0.0004
mag 26.9


Lovely websites:

old comet misses are here http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/ca/historic_comets.html

color-coded potential impact risk here http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/risk/


here's the "by distance" table for recent

http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/neo_ca? ... ble&show=1

Now, for the really paranoid, who plan to be alive in 700 years, there's this... :wink:

"1950 DA is an asteroid for which there is some possibility of impact in March of the year 2880. The case is extraordinary because the current orbit of 1950 DA is very precisely known, which allows us to explore centuries into the future, much farther than is usually possible. The Sentry automatic monitoring system is tailored for objects with poorly determined orbits and it searches for potential impacts only over the next 100 years. More information on 1950 DA."