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10 Apr 2009, 10:55 am

Looks like there will be more people to add to Jenny's body count.

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10 Apr 2009, 3:54 pm

ruveyn wrote:

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Good we need a good culling what better place to start

The way to cull is to eliminate the poor, not the affluent.

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Eliminate the stupid and unless paper pushers is the real way to go :twisted:

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10 Apr 2009, 4:48 pm

parts wrote:

ruveyn wrote:

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Good we need a good culling what better place to start

The way to cull is to eliminate the poor, not the affluent.

ruveyn

Eliminate the stupid and unless paper pushers is the real way to go :twisted:

You mean the paper pushers and blackboard scribblers that invent and design just about everything you use?

The most productive people in our society do abstract stuff. Usually in the form of science and mathematics.

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11 Apr 2009, 2:05 am

Well, I can´t blame them for doing so. Liquid mercury injected into the blood stream is not a pretty thing, for sure. I hear there is mercury-free vacines on the market nowadays, so they could use them instead.

But first you should ask yourself, do my child really need this vacine? If it´s against some disease that has only been confirmed in 5 people during the last 50 years, I would advice parents to say no.
These things require extensive research before you take any vacine.

Back when I was in elementary school, it was just in to the doctor and get your vacines. Fun old school.

I can´t see any reason why kids should be given the most toxic metal know to man, there must be better ways to "conserve" vacines or whatever they use mercury for...

What are people being vacined against anyway, I don´t know, for real. The flu?

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11 Apr 2009, 7:40 am

ruveyn wrote:

parts wrote:

ruveyn wrote:

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Good we need a good culling what better place to start

The way to cull is to eliminate the poor, not the affluent.

ruveyn

Eliminate the stupid and unless paper pushers is the real way to go :twisted:

No not the engineers the bureaucrats the ones that do paper work for the sake of paperwork. Engineers and scientists aren't stupid but why do we need buildings full of people who fill out forms that are just filed away when computers can do most of it

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11 Apr 2009, 11:16 am

I can't tell if you're joking or not, but really, people's value isn't measured by what jobs they perform, and anyone who actually thinks it's okay to wipe people out based on their profession's importance is shameful.

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11 Apr 2009, 12:44 pm

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Um... "liquid mercury injected into the blood stream" is not even remotely what vaccines are. For one, modern vaccines (aside from bulk-packaged flu shots) contain no mercury, and even the flu shots don't contain enough mercury to matter. Secondly, vaccines aren't injected into the bloodstream but into muscle tissue. They would be significantly less effective injected into the blood.

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But first you should ask yourself, do my child really need this vacine? If it´s against some disease that has only been confirmed in 5 people during the last 50 years, I would advice parents to say no.

That's why we don't routinely vaccinate against smallpox. We only vaccinate against things that are legitimate concerns, such as measles, mumps, and rubella. Any of these diseases that are rare only are such because of successful vaccination programs.

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I can´t see any reason why kids should be given the most toxic metal know to man, there must be better ways to "conserve" vacines or whatever they use mercury for...

As I said, they aren't. And your environmental exposure to mercury from eating a tuna sandwich is probably higher than from a vaccine anyways, so worry about that first.

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What are people being vacined against anyway, I don´t know, for real. The flu?

Lots of stuff. You can look up a full list if you want.

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11 Apr 2009, 1:53 pm

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today the only vaccines that do are bulk-packaged flu shots.

apart from tetanus boosters and some meningitis vaccines too. [edit: contain Mercury]

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11 Apr 2009, 1:57 pm

parts wrote:

Good we need a good culling what better place to start?

your house and not mine.

What a hideously over used pseudo-comedic/scientific sentiment and moronically successful meme that 'a cull is needed' has become. :roll:

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11 Apr 2009, 2:01 pm

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And your environmental exposure to mercury from eating a tuna sandwich is probably higher than from a vaccine anyways, so worry about that first.

Well.....that´s one tainted tuna then, huh? I mean, Cod that is fished in the north eastern Atlantic or outside the coast of New Zeeland is 100% free from any metals or enviormental toxins, yes?

But if you catch a fish close to shore or in some polluted bay, that´s another story. Fish is know for being easily polluted by toxic substances, I guess they have a bad "defense" against metals and stuff. So when it comes to your example, it can be very different from fish to fish, how much metal that is stored in a single fish. Location, location, location.

Otherwise, I think you´re post was well writen. And you´re right. There is no Mercury in vaccines anymore. Not in the infamous USA/EU region atleast.

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vaccines aren't injected into the bloodstream but into muscle tissue.

Uh, wow, I dident know that. Seems odd, it seems like it would just get stuck in a single muscle and not transported around the entire body by the blood. But, hey, Im no doctor and I´m sure you're right.

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We only vaccinate against things that are legitimate concerns

Um, yes, indeed. Here I can´t help but agree. These conditions you mention seem really bad. They also seem to be damaging important organs in the body. In other words, they are "cell-damaging-diseases". As far as I know, common flu or fever dosent damage the organs, right?

Odd, a virus that can destroy cells. That´s maddnes.......Viruses are otherwise known for being harmless, oh well...

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11 Apr 2009, 5:11 pm

Concenik wrote:

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today the only vaccines that do are bulk-packaged flu shots.

apart from tetanus boosters and some meningitis vaccines too. [edit: contain Mercury]

Of the childhood shots, at least. There might be a few others that still contain trace amounts, but nothing terribly significant.

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11 Apr 2009, 5:22 pm

grain-and-field wrote:

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And your environmental exposure to mercury from eating a tuna sandwich is probably higher than from a vaccine anyways, so worry about that first.

Tuna is known for having high mercury levels, especially canned tuna. I was mostly intending to point out that the mercury exposure from vaccines is extremely low, to the point where it makes no sense to worry about it.

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I'm sure you remember getting shots. They typically go in the upper arm, right? It's not like when you have blood drawn and they have to find a vein. Actually, injecting vaccines directly into the blood would probably be a very bad idea, as some parts of the immune response could create dangerous clots if they occurred in the blood.

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As far as I know, common flu or fever dosent damage the organs, right?

Well, fever is not a disease itself, it is a symptom that's part of an immune response against infection. An estimated 36000 people die of influenza each year in the US alone, so it is a major concern. However, for the most part it makes sense to give flu shots primarily to at-risk groups such as the elderly.

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Odd, a virus that can destroy cells. That´s maddnes.......Viruses are otherwise known for being harmless, oh well...

Viruses are harmless?

HIV
Smallpox
Ebola
1918 Spanish Flu
SARS

Care to rephrase that?

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11 Apr 2009, 5:55 pm

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Makes sense, I mean, better a dead prom queen than someone perfectly healthy who would rather stay at home than go out getting drugged.

/sarcasm

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Butbutbut...it's NORMAL to go out and get wasted on booze and pot and pills! Why, I did it ALL THE TIME when *I* was a kid! In fact, I STILL do! I can't IMAGINE having a kid who would want to sit at home and repair computers all day! I mean, that's not NORMAL! Now I need some more pills...

-Neurotypical Middle Class Parent

Your RIGHT! I do repair people's computers and increase the potential of my own :shock:

"Not joking either...

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11 Apr 2009, 7:37 pm

Concenik wrote:

parts wrote:

Good we need a good culling what better place to start?

your house and not mine.

What a hideously over used pseudo-comedic/scientific sentiment and moronically successful meme that 'a cull is needed' has become. :roll:

Agreed.

Anytime someone makes a comment that there world's population needs to be reduced, my reply is the same: You first.

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11 Apr 2009, 8:36 pm

[quote="Orwell"]
Anytime someone makes a comment that there world's population needs to be reduced, my reply is the same: You first.[/quote

I agree. Well said.

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