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25 Jul 2019, 5:38 am

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There is a novel bublished in 1933 by the Swedish novelist Gustav Sandgren, using the pen name Gabriel Linde, published a science fiction novel called Den okända faran ("The Unknown Danger"), in which he describes a race of extraterrestrials: "...the creatures did not resemble any race of humans. They were short, shorter than the average Japanese, and their heads were big and bald, with strong, square foreheads, and very small noses and mouths, and weak chins. What was most extraordinary about them were the eyes—large, dark, gleaming, with a sharp gaze. They wore clothes made of soft grey fabric, and their limbs seemed to be similar to those of humans."

This is the first accurate description of the greys (despite this being a work of fiction).



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25 Jul 2019, 7:46 am

Ah ha so that's who started the phenomenon.



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26 Jul 2019, 1:20 am

In my view Sandgren must have seen them and incorporated them as part of his book.

Barney and betty Hill could not have possibly read the book as it was published in Swedish.



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28 Jul 2019, 2:23 pm

Now this whole thing is being commercialized:

The fast-food chain Arby's tweeted out a message stating they will be present at the “Storm Area 51” raid. Nearly 2 million people have responded to the viral Facebook event, which may or may not result in a large group of alien seekers storming Area 51 in search of alien life. “We’re going there. No really, we’re going there. Area 51. And we’re bringing a special menu.” They will be offering a “top-secret menu.”

Bud Light also jumped in on the viral raid. If there are any aliens in Area 51, and any of them actually manage to escape during the raid, their reward will be a nice, cold Bud Light. They announced the Area 51 Special Edition beer.

Source: Arby's promises to 'bring the meat' to Area 51: 'Aliens deserve the best meat on Earth'


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28 Jul 2019, 2:33 pm

Get it fresh! :alien: :alien: :alien:

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28 Jul 2019, 4:11 pm

cyberdad wrote:
@NaturalPlastic

There is a novel bublished in 1933 by the Swedish novelist Gustav Sandgren, using the pen name Gabriel Linde, published a science fiction novel called Den okända faran ("The Unknown Danger"), in which he describes a race of extraterrestrials: "...the creatures did not resemble any race of humans. They were short, shorter than the average Japanese, and their heads were big and bald, with strong, square foreheads, and very small noses and mouths, and weak chins. What was most extraordinary about them were the eyes—large, dark, gleaming, with a sharp gaze. They wore clothes made of soft grey fabric, and their limbs seemed to be similar to those of humans."

This is the first accurate description of the greys (despite this being a work of fiction).


That's actually quite interesting.

Not sure what it means. But it is interesting.



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29 Jul 2019, 4:54 am

What it means is that the greys have been abducting folks for a long time...



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29 Jul 2019, 10:29 am

naturalplastic wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
... There is a novel bublished in 1933 by the Swedish novelist Gustav Sandgren, using the pen name Gabriel Linde, published a science fiction novel called Den okända faran ("The Unknown Danger"), in which he describes a race of extraterrestrials: "...the creatures did not resemble any race of humans. They were short, shorter than the average Japanese, and their heads were big and bald, with strong, square foreheads, and very small noses and mouths, and weak chins. What was most extraordinary about them were the eyes—large, dark, gleaming, with a sharp gaze. They wore clothes made of soft grey fabric, and their limbs seemed to be similar to those of humans." ...
... Not sure what it means. But it is interesting.
It means that in 1933, someone described a fictional extra-terrestrial species, and that this description has been used by conspiracy theorists and other nutters ever since.


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29 Jul 2019, 10:36 am

cyberdad wrote:
What it means is that the greys have been abducting folks for a long time...


Including Gustav Sandgren apparently.



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30 Jul 2019, 1:46 am

Aspiegaming wrote:
I love infographics.


You would keel over from heat stroke and dehydration before you would even be able to confront the armed guards.



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30 Jul 2019, 2:59 am

naturalplastic wrote:
Aspiegaming wrote:
I love infographics.


You would keel over from heat stroke and dehydration before you would even be able to confront the armed guards.


Many people including those who work at Area 51 inhabit that and identical environments year round. I have stayed one to several days in some of them such as Beatty, Indian Springs and Tonopah.



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30 Jul 2019, 3:03 am

Fnord wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
... There is a novel bublished in 1933 by the Swedish novelist Gustav Sandgren, using the pen name Gabriel Linde, published a science fiction novel called Den okända faran ("The Unknown Danger"), in which he describes a race of extraterrestrials: "...the creatures did not resemble any race of humans. They were short, shorter than the average Japanese, and their heads were big and bald, with strong, square foreheads, and very small noses and mouths, and weak chins. What was most extraordinary about them were the eyes—large, dark, gleaming, with a sharp gaze. They wore clothes made of soft grey fabric, and their limbs seemed to be similar to those of humans." ...
... Not sure what it means. But it is interesting.
It means that in 1933, someone described a fictional extra-terrestrial species, and that this description has been used by conspiracy theorists and other nutters ever since.


Nice application of Occam's razor, Mr Fnord.


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30 Jul 2019, 3:09 am

Fnord wrote:
It means that in 1933, someone described a fictional extra-terrestrial species, and that this description has been used by conspiracy theorists and other nutters ever since.[/color]

Actually there's quite a gap between the book being published in Swedish in 1933 and Betty Hill's description of greys some 35 years later in Maryland USA.



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30 Jul 2019, 7:54 am

Look what I found. This is a film adaptation of the book The Interrupted Journey which is about the first recorded abduction case involving the couple Betty and Barney Hill.

I watched this a few years ago, it is very interesting. I remember someone saying it would be funny to dub some of James Earl Jones' lines into Darth Vader clips like "where's my gun? I gotta get my gun!".



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