Trump withdraws troops Turkey/Syrian border, Republicans mad
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So, they can decapitate people, and eat human organs, but they can't fly planes into the World Trade Center?
Yeah right like those things are synonymous. You are indeed a funny guy.
Wait a minute... are you seriously supporting the idea that Bin Laden wasn't really responsible for 9/11?
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So, they can decapitate people, and eat human organs, but they can't fly planes into the World Trade Center?
Yeah right like those things are synonymous. You are indeed a funny guy.
Wait a minute... are you seriously supporting the idea that Bin Laden wasn't really responsible for 9/11?
I'm saying that flying jet airliners into narrow buildings is considerably more complex than performing decapitations.
That aside I am willing to consider that maybe there was more involved than some guy in a cave on dialysis calling all the shots. And that guys fresh out of flight school flying jet airliners in a way that seasoned pilots would find difficult questionable. Not out of the question, but questionable.
On the other hand, in Indo-European, the languages in question were actually a lot more similar in the past than they are today. You can see this when you compare Classical Latin, Ancient Greek, and Sanskrit to each other, all of whom go back about 2 to 3 thousand years.
Altaic has never been demonstrated to have this. The lack of predictable sound changes and correspondences, but still lots of similar vocabulary combined with well-established shared history, points to borrowing and contact rather than common descent.
I agree with the first part of your post. Language convergence was particularly evident for Indo-European languages because a relatively small population of proto-Indo European speakers (closely related to Sanskrit/Iranian) entered western Europe from central Asia around 5000 years ago (relatively recently) and successfully replaced all language groups spoken in western Europe. Each of the branches that had given rise to the Slavic, Germanic, Celtic, Italic etc...became more divergent over time.
The problem with other language groups in Uralic/Altaic group is the movement of populations has been more difficult to monitor over time. The question of their phylogenetic relationship is problematic because of the purported lack of archaeological, genetic and cultural evidence to support the obvious glaringly obvious linguistic similarity between these "Turanian" groups that stretch from Japan to Finland to souther India.
I am not a big fan of Euro-centric projections on history which have (for example) downplayed the role of Africans in the rise of ancient Egypt, the role of Dravidians in India and the the mobility of groups such as Polynesians and Melanesians who were possibly able to have move by ocean going craft and traded between Africa, Asia and South America long before Europeans built ships. Then of course there is the universal unpopular "out of Africa" hypothesis which has strong genetic evidence but has never been accepted by European archaeologists, In China kids are taught that Peking Man evolved in China and that humans evolved in China separately from outside of China (an obvious attempt to claim Chinese are divinely originated or some other type of ethnocentric delusion).
So the current push to dismantle the Altaic languages needs to be taken with a grain of salt due to past bias (I have seen similar attempts to dismantle the Elamo-Dravidian languages because it makes European historians uncomfortable that the foundation of western civilisation in Sumeria was founded by people who today speak Dravidian languages). The recent find of underwater harbours of the coast of India or structures built in South America or Turkey that are possibly pre-Ice age conflict with the Euro-centric view that civilisation started with the Greeks.
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So, they can decapitate people, and eat human organs, but they can't fly planes into the World Trade Center?
Yeah right like those things are synonymous. You are indeed a funny guy.
Wait a minute... are you seriously supporting the idea that Bin Laden wasn't really responsible for 9/11?
I'm saying that flying jet airliners into narrow buildings is considerably more complex than performing decapitations.
That aside I am willing to consider that maybe there was more involved than some guy in a cave on dialysis calling all the shots. And that guys fresh out of flight school flying jet airliners in a way that seasoned pilots would find difficult questionable. Not out of the question, but questionable.
Bin Laden and those terrorists who flew the planes into the buildings were professionals at what they did. Just because they lived in caves hardly means they weren't computer savvy, or that they were devoid of education, because they were. I can't prove it, but I sincerely believe that Bin Laden may very well have had a kidney transplant, especially since his co-leader was an Egyptian doctor. The only way we'd know for sure is if an autopsy had been done on the corpse, but that had never happened.
My initial point was, anyone who could cut off heads and eat human organs were such monsters who would have no qualms about flying those planes into the World Trade Center.
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Oh, yeah, my country is really into eating organs, decapitating kids, and slaughtering Christians! Why, I think I'll go out with a butcher knife and harvest some livers!


John predicting the zombie apocalypse

I'm glad you find Western backed Jihadists murdering children in front of their parents something to laugh about.
When all else fails, take on the role of a wise cracking comedy duo.
Might help if you got a sense of humor. It definitely would help to lighten you up.
Hardy, you're mistaken if you think I ever took you and Laurel seriously.
Then how about Hardy?
I think I must be the skinny one

I'm definitely the fat one.

LOL! no buddy...Big boned and muscled

Kraichgauer
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Oh, yeah, my country is really into eating organs, decapitating kids, and slaughtering Christians! Why, I think I'll go out with a butcher knife and harvest some livers!


John predicting the zombie apocalypse

I'm glad you find Western backed Jihadists murdering children in front of their parents something to laugh about.
When all else fails, take on the role of a wise cracking comedy duo.
Might help if you got a sense of humor. It definitely would help to lighten you up.
Hardy, you're mistaken if you think I ever took you and Laurel seriously.
Then how about Hardy?
I think I must be the skinny one

I'm definitely the fat one.

LOL! no buddy...Big boned and muscled

Well then, let's say a combination of the three.

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-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
So, they can decapitate people, and eat human organs, but they can't fly planes into the World Trade Center?
Yeah right like those things are synonymous. You are indeed a funny guy.
Wait a minute... are you seriously supporting the idea that Bin Laden wasn't really responsible for 9/11?
I'm saying that flying jet airliners into narrow buildings is considerably more complex than performing decapitations.
That aside I am willing to consider that maybe there was more involved than some guy in a cave on dialysis calling all the shots. And that guys fresh out of flight school flying jet airliners in a way that seasoned pilots would find difficult questionable. Not out of the question, but questionable.
Bin Laden and those terrorists who flew the planes into the buildings were professionals at what they did. Just because they lived in caves hardly means they weren't computer savvy, or that they were devoid of education, because they were. I can't prove it, but I sincerely believe that Bin Parents may very well have had a kidney transplant, especially since his co-leader was an Egyptian doctor. The only way we'd know for sure is if an autopsy had been done on the corpse, but that had never happened.
My initial point was, anyone who could cut off heads and eat human organs were such monsters who would have no qualms about flying those planes into the World Trade Center.
Actually the guys who flew the planes were amateur pilots. And it's not inconceivable that Bin Laden didn't act alone. What did Bin Laden and Al Qaeda ever do before or after 9/11 that was close to the same level complexity and devastation. Them not having qualms about flying planes into buildings is irrelevant. What's relevant is their capability of performing all of that complexity so perfectly on the first try all by themselves. It's not out of the question that Bin Laden was not calling all the shots.
I have great sympathy for the Kurds. Suffice to say that I would choose to stay and protect them, if I had to pull out I would leave them with plenty of weapons and ammunition.
Cue Cyberdad to comment that the reason I sympathize with the Kurds is because they are whiter than any of their enemies. He's another one who must listen to hypnotic messages about racism while sleeping so he can work that angle into every conversation:
Charmin vs Angel Soft toilet paper? Charmin, thanks.
'Aha! There is a racist bent to your choice!'
Uh... okay.
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But wouldn’t you agree that the Twin Towers were a pretty big target?
I'm picturing them at a distance while aproching at over 500 miles per hour. But I think it's conceivable.
But really the bigger question is did Ben Laden orchestrate all that completely on his own.
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