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Those examples I cited were all real.

You parroted partisan spins. Your sources do not give a faithful representation of things. They are not designed for that. They are designed to give you partisan spins.

The news I listen to first just says what is going on and then gives both sides. Usually in the form of what a democrat politician says about it and what a republican politician says about it. That way I get the raw facts and then both sides view of it to draw my own conclusions.

Reporting "both sides" is inherently dishonest if one side is lying and the reporting doesn't call it out. Mainstream media regularly demonstrates they're incapable of calling out lies from the right because they're more worried about triggering people that believe those lies than they're worried about being used to peddle disinformation.

How do you know if the reporter is correct about someone lying? And what about lies from the left?

Are you suggesting that red state political leaders wouldn't be influenced by historic discrimination in those places, but are the result solely of my fevered liberal imagination?

Well you and Doxy were adversaries but at least you were both honest about where you stood

Looking to take on adversaries in forum for neurologically disabled people. smh

You are going by the highly partisan spin you absorb.

Yes, you make up your own mind, but only from what they give you.
This is simply another form of control called an overton window.

<Lunatic Left ---------------- Moderate centrism ------------ Side 1 -- "The facts about Chingus Khan" -- Side 2 ---- Lunatic right>

Because they pick the facts they present, and then they pick the sides.
A centre and two sides makes a nice little box, to confine a persons thinking.
And that's how you can present "The Golden Hoarde" as "The balanced middle ground position."

And here is the best bit, you can nest them like Russian Dolls.
So that entire spectrum I put up their, is itself, an overton window.
A very broad one, but an overton window none-the-less because it keeps you thinking in terms of left and right, and not up or
down or in or out or all these other wonderful angles and dimensions, that you become blind to the moment you get on that linear spectrum of thought.

That's one of the reasons Wikileaks was such a wonderful news organisation, because they would publish the source material.
So in the case of the DNC leaks, yes, you could just read what wikileaks wrote, or what other papers wrote about the leaks, or you could go straight to the source and check the actual emails and, if you had the knowledge, you could even check the Domain Keys signatures to verify for yourself that they had not been tampered with.

I do not watch or listen to lengthy in depth news programs. I just catch the news on the radio at the top of the hour and read an article here and there on Reuters and AP.

Looking for gremlins or monsters under your bed Ezra?

I'm afraid an adversary in this context relates to intellectual jousting. The very face I debate on this forum is because many of you are my intellectual superior. Rather than intending bullying I have complimented your intellect (assuming that's you posting here?) which you have conveniently ignored but chose to feel that I am bullying you when I demonstrate you are wrong.

Triggering:
"triggering

adjective
adjective: triggering

(of an event, circumstance, etc.) causing a particular action, process, or situation to happen.
"people who blush too much frequently blush arbitrarily, with no obvious triggering event"
(especially of something read, seen, or heard) causing someone emotional distress, typically as a result of arousing feelings or memories associated with a particular traumatic experience.
"this could be very triggering for victims of sexual assault""

And vice versa.

If intellect alone were enough autistic people would not be at such a disadvantage socially. They would not feel outmatched by those they deal with in life. Would not feel so down trodden and put upon. Would not have to struggle so much. You have never had to deal with that as an autistic. You obviously do not understand what it is like from our perspective. I have tried to get you to understand it to some degree, but to no avail. Because you are too fixated on conquest. Too addicted to one upping. It is hardly limited to just me and what I have experienced. Most do not speak up about it. They just give up and leave because it is too much like what they have to deal with in real life.

A guest in our house with presumptions.

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You see it as "jousting", others see at "toying".
Ezars has made it clear he resents the way you interact with him, yet you still persist in that style of behaviour. How do you reconcile that?