Trump asks 3M to stop selling N95 masks to Canada

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Of course I admit that. Not all of America wears MAGA hats. NYC, SAN Francisco, LA, Seattle etc these are diverse places where human beings are more or less equal compared to other areas of the USA that have only in recent years had interracial prom nights for high school graduates.

Where I live is the MOST open in the country - we are Canada’s gateway to Asia-Pacific countries. Very close 2nd, even though I’ve never been there, is Toronto. They have a large Indian population there, but also Majority of black Canadians with a huge Jamaican population. BC has very few blacks people to the point that a guy visiting from Toronto once asked me where all of our black people are. I told him which neighbourhood all 100 of them mostly live in.

But yes, 100% we have entire regions full of racists and white supremacists. Alberta, as a Province in general, takes that title. The wealthy white oil money cowboy redneck conservative types live there. We Also have white supremacists here in BC, too. Nowhere is immune to that crap; we just happen to be the best in Canada, but far from a perfectly harmonious society.

More pros than cons, though. On a positive note: I once saw an American news broadcast that said nowhere on Earth do people of all religions mix and live well with one another. Orly? That place is here. Go to google maps and look up “No. 5 Rd,” (number 5 road) at approximately the intersection of “Steveston Highway,” in Richmond (highest Asian population city outside of Asian I believe) BC,
Canada. And go to the street view and walk/scroll up and down No. 5 Rd in both directions for a few miles and have a look at the places of worship that line each side of the street. Pretty much every major religion on Earth has a large church or temple or synagogue or whatever there - some of them rather beautiful. My favourite is the Buddhist Temple. It’s so serene and tranquil with its gardens and ponds, and so ornate inside with all the gold and intricate art.

And to bring it right back on topic: Ideally don’t go gather at any place of worship right now, even with a respirator IMO the risk is too high. Pray and worship however you prefer, or not at all, from wherever you are.

The problem lies in reading comprehension and memory function. I’ve posted many times about racism in Canada and about Indigenous rights issues. It’s not my fault if people cannot read or recall those things, nor if they misinterpret me pointing out others’ flaws as stating my nationality is perfect.

depends who Rapunzel is, she could be feeling slightly paranoid actually

Rapunzel is the woman with long hair who rescues men using her locks.

symbolic of virtue

Funny how they don't have problems interpreting anyone else.

It is your fault.

There are some N95 masks that should not be “expropriated” from private citizens. For example, I have an N95 mask that I got from the university that I work for. I am using it as needed. It is part of my PPE (goggles gloves, mask) that I use while in a chemical laboratory setting when working with certain toxic powders that are inhalation hazards. Since it has been exposed to chemical vapors (opened box) while in storage, it cannot be donated for use by a health care provider or first responder. They only want unopened/unused N95 masks that are “clean” to them. As soon as they find out where it was from, they would not touch it if I handed it to them. Funny, they are not scared of certain things, but as soon as you mention chemicals, most of them freak out.

also read that the US highjacked in Thailand a shipment of masks intended for Germany. germans and canadians have just as much right to live as Americans. trump is scrambling (poorly) to make up for selling 17.8 tons of PPE to china early in the pandemic.

To whomever asked about C-19 benefits here in Canada, there’s another additional program here in BC I forgot to mention: $500/month rental subsidy for 3 months for renters. It’s paid directly to landlords who have to apply for it, and it covers Many renters but not All. (I won’t likely qualify for this.) And BC has also put a freeze on rent increases during the crisis (Good! Market rents are insanely unaffordable.) as well as a moratorium on evictions. (But not sure if that applies
to all evictions right now or just those from gov’t social housing as the moratorium was originally written.)

So, MOST people out of work will get $2,000/mo tax free for 15 weeks + $500/mo towards rent for a few months. People on disability get an extra $300/mo for 3 months.

And all of this is regardless of whether you wear a mask or you don’t. Our gov’t is simply taking action on measures to try to ensure that people can stay home to slow the spread without imploding the economy & real estate markets in the process. In addition, literally everyone is still just as covered by our single payer universal healthcare system for C-19 diagnosis and treatments as they are
for anything else at all times - this is not a new benefit, but still worthy of mention because it’s still one that we are all grateful for that sets us apart from less advanced societies the world over.

Personally, I think Canada and BC are doing more & better than anything I’ve seen in the news that’s being provided to those South of the border in the so-called richest country on Earth. But that’s just me and you can feel free to interpret it any way you like depending on your personal bias against me for whatever your reasons may be.

Makes scientific sense to me!

Is your work considered an essential service that Must continue during the pandemic? If not, IMO, zero more masks should be sent to your employer and any unopened sealed boxes should be sent to whichever area hospital needs them.

I’m glad Canadians are getting all these benefits.

But you can point this out without knocking the US and its people.

Of course, Trump is “knockable.”

But I don’t insult Canada and its people.

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The Feds kept seizing PPE ordered by Massachusetts.

In desperation, the MA Gov creates a backchannel to Chinese ambassador to the UN and has the New England Patriots send a jet to pick the PPE up and finally gets the equipment to Massachusetts hospitals

Yep. That’s mentioned in an article link I posted where the USA is accused of modern day piracy for high jacking those masks that were in transit at an airport on their way to German police forces.

All of this could have been avoided if the federal leadership in the USA responded more appropriately to the virus in the beginning. The number of infections and deaths could have been minimized in the USA instead of what’s unfolding now.

Deaths per Million citizens in Canada so far: 6.
Deaths per Million citizens in America so far: 22.

They’re a far cry from the 240 in Italy, but sadly on pace to overcome Italy & Spain’s high death rates.

All of this urgency for masks right now was entirely avoidable but the trump administration completely bungled their response and continues to do so daily. As much as I like ripping on trump, I Do NOT Like that this is happening to Americans.

Much of the US is actually doing rather well in coronavirus virus containment.

If present trends continue, we won’t get near to the 100,000 to 200,000 deaths predicted by Fauci.

I wish we in NYC were receiving better news.

Disgusting. Pitting state against state vs federal government etc all outbidding one another for necessary supplies against other countries etc is absolutely f*****g bonkers. It should be unfathomable that this scenario could ever play out never mind that it’s reality right now. The lack of leadership and cooperation between levels of government across the line right now is just one more major contributing factor to the American body count that we all have no choice but to just watch go up and up like it’s a slow motion train wreck that we can’t look away from. Americans deserve better than this from their elected officials.

While your optimism is nice, that is not what I see from news reports and broadcasts coming from all across America.. and it’s not reflected in your country’s ever increasing daily death toll.

Fauci and others are now saying 200,000 or 240,000 American deaths is a best case scenario number based on actions and behaviours from this point forward being Perfect. And anyone who’s bothered to watch/listen to any news being broadcast from the USA about the pandemic situation in America can plainly see that what’s being done in terms of government response and the public’s behaviour is VERY FAR from perfect, and thus it’s only logical to believe that the US death toll is probable to greatly exceed 240,000 from this first wave. It would not surprise me one bit if in 12-18 months it exceeds 1,000,000.

Remember KK: The outcome is based on the lowest common denominator.. the worst behaved Americans who least follow the best practice guidelines/orders for mitigating this pandemic crisis, not the best. Those doing their part fully will help, but the many who are not are the ones who are going to be responsible for the bottom line death toll in the USA being catastrophic.